XPost: alt.global-warming, alt.atheism   
   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/21/2026 1:32 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   > On 1/20/26 11:53 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >> On 1/19/2026 10:05 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   >>> On 1/19/26 8:18 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 1/19/2026 7:55 AM, JTEM wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>> It's not science. In science, when your hypothesis is falsified   
   >>>>> it's discarded. In climate hysterics, you double down.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> These aren't just words. I don't make up shit like you do. This   
   >>>>> is how science works, and climate hysterics does not work this   
   >>>>> way. It fails to meet a basic definition of science.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Then, let's assume   
   >>>   
   >>> "Then," what?   
   >>>   
   >>> Are you acknowledging that falsifiability is a basic tenant of   
   >>> science?   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes or no?   
   >   
   >> Duh!  But, you have not presented a testable hypothesi   
   >   
   > Other than the fact that we are inside of an ice age -- the Quaternary   
   > Ice Age -- and it's characterized at this stage by a   
   > glacial/interglacial cycle with us presently inside of an interglacial   
   > which is overdue to end.   
   >   
   > "Other than that," you mean. Right?   
   >   
   > But you have presented a testable hypothesis. And it's been falsified.   
   > And that's the point. CO2 does not control our climate and has not   
   > caused it to be unnaturally warm.   
   >   
   >> rather, your "it's always natural variability" is not falsifiable.   
   >   
   > It can't be falsified BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. You can look back at the   
   > past and see many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many periods   
   > were CO2 failed to produce the rise in temperatures you require. You   
   > can see instances where a rise in CO2 has FOLLOWED a rise in   
   > temperature -- warmth raised CO2 levels, not the other way around --   
   > and you can see periods which much lower CO2 levels and higher   
   > temperatures.   
   >   
   > We can see the very premise of your climate hysterics falsified.   
   >   
   > We can see predictions of your pseudo scientific idiocy falsified.   
   >   
   > Glacier National Park?  All the glaciers were supposed to have   
   > melted five years ago!  The Maldives?  They were supposed to be   
   > underwater... was it 8 years ago?   
   >   
   > Snow was supposed to already be a thing of the past.   
   >   
   > The north pole still has ice. Sorry.   
   >   
      
   And, guess what, if all the ice at the North Pole disappears some summer   
   in the next 20 years, such will at least be unusual!  And, what you   
   described above is known as the "Temperature-CO2 feedback loop", which   
   you can Google.  Now, if CO2 is orthogonal to our World's climate, then   
   human beings can double where we are at today (428 ppm), and our World   
   may, in fact, get cooler, and that is certainly observable, hence,   
   testable!  Here's the ice, by the way:   
      
   https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today   
      
   The site usually gets updated between 5 and 6 AM CST/CDT.   
      
   Dawn   
      
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