From: alain245@videotron.ca   
      
   On Mar/8/2021 at 14:19, Jeff Findley wrote :   
   > In article , jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr says...   
   >>   
   >> Le 01/03/2021 à 01:27, Alain Fournier a écrit :   
   >>> SpaceX plans on building Starship to transport Mars colonist and   
   >>> equipment for a Mars colony. But they mostly expect other companies and   
   >>> organizations to handle the actual establishment of a base on Mars :   
   >>> habitats, greenhouses... Starship seems to be advancing well, but I   
   >>> haven't heard much about others working on the necessities for living on   
   >>> Mars. Have any of you heard about others having such plans?   
   >>   
   >> All this "To mars" stuff is just vaporwware. Humans have no technology   
   >> to send any of hem to mars now, and (luckily) they will not have it in   
   >> the next 20 years.   
   >   
   > I personally think we'll see humans set foot on Mars in less than 20   
   > years.  Actual colonies on Mars will take a bit longer.  ;-)   
      
   Depending on what is your definition of a colony, the first one could   
   very well be in less than 20 years. I personally think that in less than   
   20 years there will be some people living on Mars and considering Mars   
   as their home or some people living on Mars with no planed date for   
   their return to Earth. That is a rather weak definition of what is a   
   colony, and even so, it is not a sure thing that it will happen within   
   20 years, but I think it will happen.   
      
   For a stronger definition of a colony, such as a group living on Mars   
   and capable of growing and surviving indefinitely without receiving   
   supplies from Earth, yes I would say that will take more than 20 years.   
      
      
   Alain Fournier   
      
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