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   Alain Fournier to pnn calmagorod   
   Re: First reply PNN attempt   
   10 Aug 22 12:43:12   
   
   From: alain245@videotron.ca   
      
   On Aug/10/2022 at 11:20, pnn calmagorod wrote :   
   > Il giorno mercoledì 10 agosto 2022 alle 16:49:06 UTC+2 Otto J. Makela ha   
   scritto:   
   >> Doctor Who  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 17:42:09 +0300, o...@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:   
   >>>> Alain Fournier  wrote:   
   >>>>> You haven't worded that right. Thermal effects can produce real   
   >>>>> thrust, not just illusion of thrust. Of course such thrust   
   >>>>> disappears in a vacuum.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Indeed, you are correct. Sorry for the inaccuracy, I should have said   
   >>>> "thermal effects, which produce the illusion of a reactionless drive".   
   >>>   
   >>> which isn't our case!   
   >> Unfortunately, still to be proven. We'll be suitably impressed once   
   >> you are able to reproduce the claimed thrust effects in a vacuum.   
   >   
   > H.Lorentz obtained nobel prize for his Lorentz force without no experiments   
   in vacuum :-)   
   >   
   > more i never  seem the measures of gold weight on a scale under vacuum :-)   
   >   
   > You dont't want see the elementary facts then invent ridicoulus and very   
   expensive for us  conditions.   
   > Then why with your allucinan theories don't reply to this? :   
   >   
   > with Asps PNN (with batteries .. and remote control) if on a scale we have   
   thrust in a direction ... at 180 degree we have ANTI thrust :-)   
   > we repeat this many times :-)   
   > so you must invent something of realistic to explain such MANY facts :-)   
      
   If you heat one side of your gizmo more than the other side you will   
   push air molecules harder on one side than on the other side. This will   
   give you some thrust. If you turn your gizmo 180 degrees, you will have   
   thrust in the other direction. You can repeat that as many times as you   
   want. That is not non-Newtonian propulsion.   
      
      
   Alain Fournier   
      
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