From: alain245@videotron.ca   
      
   On May/7/2023 at 03:17, JF Mezei wrote:   
   > On 2023-05-03 07:49, Snidely wrote:   
   >   
   >>> Starship didn't have enough fuel/power to reach the   
   >>> semi-orbit to have it splash down at a beach resort in Hawaii.  (so   
   >>> doing premature stage separation to let Starship di its test was not   
   >>> possible since its landing spot couldn't be properly controlled).   
   >>   
   >> Are you extrapolating data you don't have?   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > In Melon Husk's discussion on his Twitter thing, he mentioned that doing   
   > stage separation at 39km would have left Starship without enough delta-V   
   > to reach intended landing in Hawaii.   
   >   
   > So so much for Starship being able to lauch from ground and reach LEO   
   > with no payload which was said to be possible in the early days of project.   
      
   Reaching orbit from ground with a single stage would probably mean doing   
   so with very little payload, essentially no payload at all. In the case   
   of the Starship/Super Heavy launch (SpaceX should really give a   
   different name for the whole spaceship and the second stage), there was   
   a lot a instruments to measure all kinds of things that wouldn't be   
   there in a normal launch. There probably was also a dummy payload (bags   
   of sand or something).   
      
      
   Alain Fournier   
      
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