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   Message 211 of 1,217   
   Sean Steele to All   
   Some Thoughts on the Sun's Recent Outbur   
   01 Nov 03 03:53:20   
   
   From: chancellor@spaceinstitute.net   
      
   We are witnessing in real time the fact that stellar atmospheric dynamics   
   are much more complex than anyone admits to.  The observed eleven year solar   
   cycle is so poorly understood that there are not many astrophysicists that   
   will make the claim that it can be adequately described with enough   
   resolution to make any presumptions really useful.  It is fascinating to   
   note that the so-called "chance occurrences" of two near simultaneous events   
   we have witnessed are being described as "so low on the probability scale as   
   to be statistically impossible" - and yet, there they are in real time for   
   all to observe.  It is difficult to imagine that it is we, out of all people   
   in all of history that are actually privy to once-in-a-stellar-lifetime   
   event.  What is more likely is that we are witnessing common stellar   
   phenomenon that is so complex that we are unable to understand the   
   underlying process itself.  It is also of some importance that we are also   
   probably onlookers to events that describe the true nature of a local star   
   for which we have little understanding.  In this unsettling event, the   
   bottom line is that what we may be witnessing is a star of unexpected   
   complexity with a propensity to outbursts and relative instabilities we had   
   no prior knowledge of.   
      
      
      
   In the real world of stellar atmospheric dynamics, events occur in   
   thermonuclear reality, in subatomic subsets and in quantum regions, not   
   readily decipherable by classical descriptions.  This is, in fact, the real   
   rub.  As John Haldane has stated so accurately, "My own suspicion is that   
   not only is the universe queerer than we suppose, it is queerer than we can   
   suppose."  In light of this reality, we need to drop the presupposition that   
   we have a handle on the Sun's stellar dynamics and begin to look it in a   
   magnitude of greater depth.  I suspect there is a fundamental quantum effect   
   here that we have either overlooked or have not yet uncovered.  It is   
   essential that we pour many more resources into this study.  Not that we   
   will ever be able to do anything about it, but it would be useful to develop   
   an early warning system based on the sun's quantum output, perhaps beginning   
   with a careful look at what happened to the neutrino count several weeks ago   
   from Sudbury and extending to the outbursts itself.  Now there is a data set   
   I would love to get my hands on!  Just a thought..   
      
      
      
   Sean Steele   
      
   International Institute of Space Exploration   
      
   Space Studies Online   
      
   http://www.spaceinstitute.net   
      
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