From: g_d_pusch_remove_underscores@xnet.com   
      
   "Sean Steele"  writes:   
      
   > [...] In the real world of stellar atmospheric dynamics, events occur in   
   > thermonuclear reality, in subatomic subsets and in quantum regions, not   
   > readily decipherable by classical descriptions. [...]   
      
   _Individual_ fusion reactions between two nuclei are quantum processes, but   
   there is =NO= reason to believe that "macroscopic" quantum mechanical effects   
   are required to understand the Sun as a whole.   
      
      
   > [...] I suspect there is a fundamental quantum effect here that we have   
   > either overlooked or have not yet uncovered.   
      
   I suspect you are wrong. Quantum mechanical effects are important in reactions   
   between elementary particles or nuclei, but rapidly become insignificant   
   when either the number of particles involved or the temperatures involved   
   become macroscopically large. The Sun is =VERY= large and =VERY= hot;   
   it should therefore be a =VERY= "classical" object indeed !!!   
      
   The Sun is quite turbulent, and perhaps even chaotic --- but it should be   
   well-describable using CLASSICAL turbulence and CLASSICAL chaos theory,   
   =NOT= Quantum Mechanics.   
      
      
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