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   Message 975 of 1,217   
   Mikko to All   
   Re: airplanes and space flight   
   17 Aug 05 19:19:28   
   
   From: eipostia@invalid.net   
      
   Cray74@gmail.com kirjoitti:   
   > Mitch wrote:   
   >   
   >>Should this not allow for much greater payloads to be   
   >>carried since less fuel is needed to get up to 30,000 ft?   
   >   
   >   
   > Not *much* greater payloads.   
   >   
   > There is an improvement. The spacecraft can be smaller, or deliver a   
   > slightly larger payload, or get into orbit in a single bound.   
   >   
   > But 30,000ft and, say, 600mph isn't much of a boost. It's a long, long,   
   > long way from orbit. The difficulty of getting to orbit is better   
   > described by "17500 miles per hour" than any figure of altitude.   
   >   
      
   Why is that speed needed?   
      
   Only thing I can think is, that since earths gravity effects the craft   
   whole time, the longer it takes, the more gravity will "drag back" the   
   craft?   
      
      
   But also gravity gets smaller when you get more away from the earth?   
   How high does one have to go to have only half of gravity?   
      
      
      
   What if someone built a 30,000 ft high tube, similar to magnetic trains   
      - electrical magnets around it. Then you could just put metallic   
   cargo inside - without any engine or fuel, and shoot it up. The tube   
   would have to be high enough that there is no air where the cargo comes   
   out, and maybe part of the tube would have to be a vacuum.   
      
   Propably not something to do today, but still lot shorter than the   
   "space-lift", and it would give near 100 % payload.   
      
   (you could mix magnetic cargo with-non magnetic)   
   And maybe design some kind of shell that can used as "package" to shoot   
   cargo up, and then used as walls for space station or building in other   
   planet.   
      
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