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   Henry Spencer to Chung Leong   
   Re: Is it feasible to land on Mars and c   
   11 Jan 04 18:08:15   
   
   From: henry@spsystems.net   
      
   In article ,   
   Chung Leong  wrote:   
   >Bar the development of some revolutionary technology, is it realistic to   
   >think that we can land on Mars and come back?   
      
   It's certainly feasible, just relatively costly.   
      
   >It seems to me that the size of lander would be prohibitively large, as the   
   >ascent module would need to carry enough fuel to enter into Martian orbit.   
   >Compared to the Moon's, Mars' gravity is much stronger. Mars also has an   
   >atmosphere, which means thermo-shieldings on both the lander and the ascent   
   >module.   
      
   This has been studied at some length.  It's a manageable problem, although   
   a painful one.  Remember that the ascent module doesn't need to carry a   
   terribly *large* payload into Martian orbit; that helps.   
      
   Another approach that helps considerably is fueling the ascent module from   
   fuel manufactured on Mars, rather than having to lug the fuel all the way.   
      
   >The return vehicle would be fairly large too, as it needs to carry fuel for   
   >returning to Earth. In addition, it would carry the reentry module and   
   >equipment for monitoring the Martian atmosphere.   
      
   The reentry module is quite small, and there is no atmosphere monitoring   
   on the sample return mission -- the return vehicle's job is sample return,   
   not orbital science.   
      
   >Even if we use two   
   >launches, the rockets used to carry them into space would be gargantuan.   
      
   Not really.  It's almost certainly feasible with a pair of Titan-class   
   launches; they're just expensive.  Doing it with a pair of Deltas is a   
   rather marginal project, which is one reason why it hasn't happened.   
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