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   Jonathan Wilson to Ghazan Haider   
   Re: Lowest possible orbit is inside the    
   19 Jan 04 21:17:01   
   
   From: gallatinwilson@comcast.net   
      
   "Ghazan Haider"  wrote in message   
   news:2f57764a.0401162113.433d90aa@posting.google.com...   
   > Research baloons have flown at 51km above sea level, and yet the   
   > sputnik 1 flew at 31km. 20 km below where the highest baloon can fly   
   > would yield enough resistance not to allow that, so I have this   
   > question: How high is the lowest possible orbit and how high is the   
   > highest baloon range? OK thats two questions...   
   >   
   > Building and launching baloons are the currently cheapest way to send   
   > payload high above. A rocket launched horizontally and then detaching   
   > could further push the payload to the lowest orbit. I would imagine   
   > for a 1kg payload, the rocket can be pretty small and maybe a single   
   > stage solid fuel, which is legal for amateur rocketry in many places.   
      
      
   You have missed the point. What happens to you if you are dropped from 51km?   
   You fall. For a long time. Until you hit the surface.   
      
   Orbit is a function of speed as well as distance. You could orbit a   
   perfectly spherical planet (with no atmosphere, of course) at 1 meter   
   altitude forever, were you moving at the appropriate speed.   
      
   In the presence of an atmosphere, a sustainable orbit requires that you both   
   stay out of the bulk of atmospheric drag and be moving at exactly the escape   
   velocity for that particular body at that particular distance. Were the   
   earth perfectly spherical and airless, that velocity, at the aforementioned   
   1 meter altitude, would be about 9.8 kilometers/second. At Sputnik's orbital   
   distance (227 x 945km), 9 km/s would be more like it.   
      
   Getting to altitude inside the atmosphere (or even the ionosphere) is   
   relatively easy. Getting to 9 km/s, now _that's_ hard.   
      
   As for the lowest possible orbit - a circular orbit at 300km would decay in   
   30-60 days.   
      
   Jonathan Wilson   
      
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