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|    John Schilling to Ghazan Haider    |
|    Re: Lowest possible orbit is inside the     |
|    20 Jan 04 11:01:24    |
      From: schillin@spock.usc.edu              ghazan@ghazan.haider.name (Ghazan Haider) writes:              >Research baloons have flown at 51km above sea level, and yet the       >sputnik 1 flew at 31km. 20 km below where the highest baloon can fly       >would yield enough resistance not to allow that, so I have this       >question: How high is the lowest possible orbit and how high is the       >highest baloon range? OK thats two questions...              You are in error w/re Sputnik 1. That spacecraft's orbit was an ellpise       with the perigee at 227 km and apogee at 945 km. It only ever flew at       31 km in the sense that it flew at every altitude between 1 and 226 km,       which is to say very briefly with a big-ass rocket underneath to lift       the whole thing as quickly as possible to the 227+ km destination orbit.              >Building and launching baloons are the currently cheapest way to send       >payload high above. A rocket launched horizontally and then detaching       >could further push the payload to the lowest orbit. I would imagine       >for a 1kg payload, the rocket can be pretty small and maybe a single       >stage solid fuel, which is legal for amateur rocketry in many places.              The highest altitude for balloons is about 50 km, the lowest altitude       for anything resembling an orbit is about 150 km, and you aren't the       first to suggest balloons might be used as a first step to orbit.              But keep in mind, going up is only ~15% of the problem. ~85% of the       difficulty of getting to orbit is the going very fast horizontally       part, and since the balloon only handles 1/3 of the "going up" part       of the problem, the rocket is going to be doing 95% of the work in       any event.                     --       *John Schilling * "Anything worth doing, *       *Member:AIAA,NRA,ACLU,SAS,LP * is worth doing for money" *       *Chief Scientist & General Partner * -13th Rule of Acquisition *       *White Elephant Research, LLC * "There is no substitute *       *schillin@spock.usc.edu * for success" *       *661-951-9107 or 661-275-6795 * -58th Rule of Acquisition *              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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