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   Copy: sander@haldjas.folklore.ee   
      
   Sander Vesik  writes:   
      
   > Gordon D. Pusch  wrote:   
   >   
   >> See, for example, FORTH --- which uses a =MUCH= simpler virtual machine   
   >> than JAVA, and can pack an entire operating system / extensible compiler   
   >> into a mere 8k...   
   >   
   > You can have JVM-s with sizes within the same order of magnitude. A JIT   
   > JVM will obviously be larger, but not by *that* much.   
      
   I am talking about an ENTIRE OPERATING SYSTEM, with EXTENSIBLE COMPILER.   
   The "virtual machine" component of FORTH totals only a few tens of bytes.   
   FORTH is utra-lean and ultra-clean. The JVM is built to MILSPEC.   
      
   -- Gordon D. Pusch   
      
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