From: ansible@typhoon.xnet.com   
      
   Anvil wrote:   
      
   >Andrew wrote:   
      
   >> It seems that the helicopter must have two sets   
   >> of propellers: small ones for the troposphere   
   >> and big ones for the stratosphere. Perhaps the   
   >> best design is made of three propellers: one big   
   >> propeller placed between two small propellers   
   >> which counter the torque produced by the big   
   >> propeller.   
      
   Yikes. Now you've really complicated the design.   
      
   If you have rockets on the rotor tips, you don't have much torque on   
   the fuselage which then needs to be countered.   
      
   >You will want to research articles on Rotary Rocket and   
   >Hiller Helicopters. Consider that the air-breathing Hiller   
   >will outperform the use of just hydrogen peroxide and was   
   >itself of limited use.   
      
   You will also want to review the news archives for Armadillo Aerospace.   
   They tried peroxide rocket tips on helicopter blades too.   
   They had some interesting failures.   
      
   At any rate...   
      
   You need to remember that getting up in altitude is only a fraction of   
   the problem. You are using most of your delta-V to get to orbital velocity.   
      
   The most efficient way to do that is to get _out_ of the atmosphere as   
   soon as you can. Sticking around inside the atmosphere means drag,   
   which leads to heat, which causes all kinds of problems.   
      
   Better to get out of the atmosphere, and accelerate to orbital speed   
   there. So you need a rocket anyway.   
      
   And since you're designing rockets, you might as well design a big dumb   
   booster for the first stage, to keep the design as simple as possible.   
      
   There have been a lot of people with a lot of ideas, but I have yet to   
   see the practicality of anything other than a rocket.   
      
   There are some secondary advantages to having something like a carrier   
   aircraft take you aloft, but these have to do with launch site location   
   and other factors. 50,000 ft of altitude doesn't really buy you much.   
      
   James Graves   
      
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