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|    Gene P. to JotaCe    |
|    Re: Fire in microgravity    |
|    18 May 05 17:02:06    |
      From: alcore@uurth.com              On 18 May 2005, JotaCe wrote:              >I have been thinking about the way the fire behaves in microgravity. I       >have found little information on this in the internet, so I am mostly       >just wondering, and these thoughts are what I want to share with you       >for discussion:       >       >In absence of gravity, the flames create a sort of sphere around the       >core of the fire [...]       [snip]              Actually, no.              The traditional incandescent flame mostly doesn't happen in zero g fires.              The problem with zero g combustion is that the heat creates no       convection... as a result both the combustion products (heat, ash, co2,       water vapor, etc) all stay more or less right where they were produced.              Now most of this is actually a good thing since it retards further       combustion... But because the heat stays put too, and will continue to       build so long as the immediate supply of either the oxidizer or fuel are       not exhausted, that heat can grow to *VERY* intense levels.              It's usually the oxidizer that is the limit. And that's ordinary air.              So the moment an astronaut or cabin fan (or something else) causes       airflow, the fire spreads... First by allowing more oxygen to get to the       hot fuel and secondly by transporting *extremely hot* exhaust gasses       away... which can transfer their heat and trigger other combustion.              There will only be a visible "flame" for as long as there's fuel and       oxygen actively mixing... but the hazardous heat bubble can persist for a       very long time since air is a poor conductor of heat without convection to       assist it.              So the danger is this: A fire starts and quickly chokes itself, but in       the process triggers an alarm... The astronaut comes to investigate, and       as he approaches to have a look causes eddy currents in the air which feed       the fire... and worse yet, could stumble into a pocket of superheated       combustion products that aren't visible but are more than hot enough to       set *him* on fire...              It's *not* pretty.              And to the extent that materials *do* get hot enough to glow... that's       heat radiation. It spreads the heat around. Perhaps enough so to trigger       other fires nearby.              If you still the air (or remove it), generally zero g fires go out on       their own... very slowly, as the heat dissipates below the ignition       threshold.              (All bets are off though if the environment contains mixtures of       hypergolics... just mix and watch your fire re-ignite!)              Gene P.       Slidell LA              --       Alcore Nilth - The Mad Alchemist of Gevbeck       alcore@uurth.com              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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