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   Henry Spencer to jwatts@rosemail.rose.hp.com   
   Re: SSME vs. RS-68 performance   
   04 Sep 05 18:13:15   
   
   From: henry@spsystems.net   
      
   In article ,   
   Jon Watts   wrote:   
   >What I find confusing here is part of what I thought I understood   
   >about the design trade-offs in the SSME.  I thought the the SSMEs high   
   >chamber pressure was chosen to allow a high expansion ratio [at] sea   
   >level...   
      
   That was a large part of it.  (The remainder was fitting three high-thrust   
   high-expansion engines into the very cramped space available at the rear   
   of the orbiter, which called for high pressures to keep the engines   
   compact.)   
      
   > and that a high expansion ratio at sea level was needed to   
   >improve sea level Isp.   
      
   No, the point of a high expansion ratio is high *vacuum* Isp.  The SSME   
   does most of its work in vacuum or near-vacuum.  Improving Isp on that end   
   is far more important, especially since the SRBs are doing most of the   
   work at sea level.  You want the SSMEs to be able to *run* at sea level,   
   so they can be started before launch, but how well they perform there is   
   of little importance.   
      
   The SSME was originally going to have a telescoping nozzle extension --   
   deployed at altitude -- to increase its vacuum expansion ratio still   
   further.  The switch to a fixed nozzle saved money and complexity, but did   
   hurt performance a little.   
      
   >However from these data the RS-68 achieves a   
   >(slightly) higher sea level Isp despite having less than half the   
   >chamber pressure and less than one third the expansion ratio.   
      
   This is partly because the RS-68 doesn't have SRBs to carry it up to   
   altitude, so its sea-level performance matters more, and the design   
   optimization was shifted somewhat towards better atmospheric operation.   
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