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|    Poutnik to Martin Brown    |
|    Re: B-Z clock reaction - other catalysts    |
|    03 Dec 15 14:47:12    |
      From: Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com              On 12/03/2015 11:27 AM, Martin Brown wrote:       >       > How sensitive to choice of reagents is the BZ reaction in practice?       >       > I have always previously demo'd it in 1M sulphuric acid with the classic       > ceric suphate, potassium bromate & malonic acid in the yellow to clear       > form with or without ferroin to get a higher contrast.       >       > It works easily over a wide range of composition and temperatures with       > these reagents and I have never had it fail to oscillate.       >       > But will it also run with other adjacent f group elements like say       > neodymium to get a pink to clear solution?              >       > If not what is so special about cerium in this reaction?       >       > Failing that how about thorium and uranium sat in the corresponding       > positions in the next row down?       >              There is important to have a kation redox system,       like Ce(III) <> Ce(IV) with suitable standard redox potential.       I have seen also a link of usage MnSO4,       as Mn(II)<>Mn(III) creates similar system.              Some redox reactions have both reactants of the same charge,       or related nucleofilic/electrofilic afinity.       In such case they are often catalyzed by redox system of the opposite       charge, frequently with usage of transient metals like Mn, Fe, Cu.              There is different relation of d and f orbital energies for lanthanoids       and actinoids, therefore chemical properties of respective element do       not match well. E.g. Neodymium as a counterpart of Uranium does not have       oxidation number VI.                     --       Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )              Knowledge makes a great man humble, but a small man arrogant.              Eventual Wikipedia articles are provided with intention       of a convenient reference, not as an evidence, argument,       and usually not as a primary source of my knowledge.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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