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|    Peter Fairbrother to Peter Fairbrother    |
|    Re: Breathing Anti-freeze dangerous?    |
|    19 Jul 16 17:19:15    |
      From: peter@tsto.co.uk              On 19/07/16 16:53, Peter Fairbrother wrote:       > On 19/07/16 01:50, jdmiller125@gmail.com wrote:       >> But can breathing a small amount kill you? I was changing the coolant       >> on an overheated car and the coolant compartment have a leak. So I       >> continued to grab a glove to protect my hand from the heat of the       >> radiator cap and unscrewed the cap. It released a major amount of       >> pressure and Vapor in the air I stepped away. Though during the       >> process I held my breath, but stepped away to finish letting the       >> pressure out. But yeah I believe I inhaled a small amount in the       >> process because shortly after I had a mild headache. So to the       >> original question... am I going to die?       >>       >       > Yes, you are going to die. We all do. But it is unlikely that breathing       > a small amount of ethylene glycol spray will kill you.       >       > If you think you inhaled more than half an ounce of liquid, or if you       > are feeling drunk, weird, depressed, get advice and/or treatment RIGHT       > THE FUCK NOW.       >       > It can take a few days to kill you.       >       >       > However that is a whole lot to inhale. Deaths from inhalation of spray       > in these circumstances are almost non-existent, as people cough etc.       >       > A lungful of vapour won't kill you [1], it's the spray which counts.       >       >       > One antidote for minor levels of poisoning, if you are stock in the       > middle of nowhere with no support, is alcohol. Unfortunately, the       > initial-24hour effects of ethylene glycol poisoning are similar to those       > of alcohol. Drink lots of water too.              Note especially - the drinking lots of water is for inhaled ethylene       glycol, after 12+ hours, and not for swallowed ethylene glycol!!!                                   > BTW, the correct way to ask that sort of question is to phone your local       > hospital, who will either advise you themselves, or connect you to a       > poisons helpline.       >       > I strongly advise you to do that - otherwise I take no responsibility       > for this posting.       >       > Plus, any other advice in it is directed only to the OP, if you aren't       > him, and in his exact situation, it will not apply to you.       >       >       > - Peter Fairbrother       >       > [1] well it can, in extremely rare circumstances, but you'd already be       > dead. it's onions! [2]       >       > [2] one of the nerve gases, I forget which, is said to smell like onions       > in certain concentrations. Unfortunately, those concentrations are       > sufficient to kill in seconds, So, how do we know what it smells like?       >       > I don't know, but imagining: someone opens bottle, takes a sniff, cries       > "Onions!", falls down dead ..       >              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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