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|    Frank <"frank to Peter Fairbrother    |
|    Re: Breathing Anti-freeze dangerous?    |
|    19 Jul 16 13:13:26    |
      From: "@frank.net              On 7/19/2016 12:19 PM, Peter Fairbrother wrote:       > On 19/07/16 16:53, Peter Fairbrother wrote:       >> On 19/07/16 01:50, jdmiller125@gmail.com wrote:       >>> But can breathing a small amount kill you? I was changing the coolant       >>> on an overheated car and the coolant compartment have a leak. So I       >>> continued to grab a glove to protect my hand from the heat of the       >>> radiator cap and unscrewed the cap. It released a major amount of       >>> pressure and Vapor in the air I stepped away. Though during the       >>> process I held my breath, but stepped away to finish letting the       >>> pressure out. But yeah I believe I inhaled a small amount in the       >>> process because shortly after I had a mild headache. So to the       >>> original question... am I going to die?       >>>       >>       >> Yes, you are going to die. We all do. But it is unlikely that breathing       >> a small amount of ethylene glycol spray will kill you.       >>       >> If you think you inhaled more than half an ounce of liquid, or if you       >> are feeling drunk, weird, depressed, get advice and/or treatment RIGHT       >> THE FUCK NOW.       >>       >> It can take a few days to kill you.       >>       >>       >> However that is a whole lot to inhale. Deaths from inhalation of spray       >> in these circumstances are almost non-existent, as people cough etc.       >>       >> A lungful of vapour won't kill you [1], it's the spray which counts.       >>       >>       >> One antidote for minor levels of poisoning, if you are stock in the       >> middle of nowhere with no support, is alcohol. Unfortunately, the       >> initial-24hour effects of ethylene glycol poisoning are similar to those       >> of alcohol. Drink lots of water too.       >       > Note especially - the drinking lots of water is for inhaled ethylene       > glycol, after 12+ hours, and not for swallowed ethylene glycol!!!       >       >       Lot of info out there on ethylene glycol toxicity. This is probably as       good as any:              http://des.nh.gov/organization/commissioner/pip/factsheets/ard/d       cuments/ard-ehp-12.pdf              OSHA standards would make it practically non-toxic but its sweet taste       can cause accidental consumption. Current GHS SDS standards make it       appear more toxic than it actually is:              http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/MSDS/MSDS/DisplayMSDSPage.do?country       US&language=en&productNumber=324558&brand=SIAL&PageToGoToURL=htt       %3A%2F%2Fwww.sigmaaldrich.com%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fsial%2F324558%3Flang%3Den              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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