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   Frank <"frank to Peter Fairbrother   
   Re: Breathing Anti-freeze dangerous?   
   19 Jul 16 13:13:26   
   
   From: "@frank.net   
      
   On 7/19/2016 12:19 PM, Peter Fairbrother wrote:   
   > On 19/07/16 16:53, Peter Fairbrother wrote:   
   >> On 19/07/16 01:50, jdmiller125@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>> But can breathing a small amount kill you? I was changing the coolant   
   >>> on an overheated car and the coolant compartment have a leak. So I   
   >>> continued to grab a glove to protect my hand from the heat of the   
   >>> radiator cap and unscrewed the cap. It released a major amount of   
   >>> pressure and Vapor in the air I stepped away. Though during the   
   >>> process I held my breath, but stepped away to finish letting the   
   >>> pressure out. But yeah I believe I inhaled a small amount in the   
   >>> process because shortly after I had a mild headache. So to the   
   >>> original question... am I going to die?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Yes, you are going to die. We all do. But it is unlikely that breathing   
   >> a small amount of ethylene glycol spray will kill you.   
   >>   
   >> If you think you inhaled more than half an ounce of liquid, or if you   
   >> are feeling drunk, weird, depressed, get advice and/or treatment RIGHT   
   >> THE FUCK NOW.   
   >>   
   >> It can take a few days to kill you.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> However that is a whole lot to inhale. Deaths from inhalation of spray   
   >> in these circumstances are almost non-existent, as people cough etc.   
   >>   
   >> A lungful of vapour won't kill you [1], it's the spray which counts.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> One antidote for minor levels of poisoning, if you are stock in the   
   >> middle of nowhere with no support, is alcohol. Unfortunately, the   
   >> initial-24hour effects of ethylene glycol poisoning are similar to those   
   >> of alcohol. Drink lots of water too.   
   >   
   > Note especially - the drinking lots of water is for inhaled ethylene   
   > glycol, after 12+ hours, and not for swallowed ethylene glycol!!!   
   >   
   >   
   Lot of info out there on ethylene glycol toxicity.  This is probably as   
   good as any:   
      
   http://des.nh.gov/organization/commissioner/pip/factsheets/ard/d   
   cuments/ard-ehp-12.pdf   
      
   OSHA standards would make it practically non-toxic but its sweet taste   
   can cause accidental consumption. Current GHS SDS standards make it   
   appear more toxic than it actually is:   
      
   http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/MSDS/MSDS/DisplayMSDSPage.do?country   
   US&language=en&productNumber=324558&brand=SIAL&PageToGoToURL=htt   
   %3A%2F%2Fwww.sigmaaldrich.com%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fsial%2F324558%3Flang%3Den   
      
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