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|    Re: propane/butane heavier or lighter th    |
|    08 Jan 18 16:11:43    |
      From: gay@sfu.ca              Libor 'Poutnik' Stříž wrote:              > Dne 08/01/2018 v 01:10 sinclair220@hotmail.com napsal(a):       >> On Monday, 8 January 2018 00:56:08 UTC+1, sincl...@hotmail.com       >> wrote:       >       >>>       >>> An interesting post Peter, but one question as a layman; Why should       >>> the instructions of the co2 detector recommend fixing it onto the       >>> ceiling? If butane is heavier than air, should it not be fixed to       >>> the wall? It could be of course, badly translated English from the       >>> Chinese manufacturer. Appreciate your advice. Rgds Sinclair       >>       >> I've found the answer; Butane is heavier than air but Co2 is lighter       >> and its Co2 gas that we are detecting. Apparently, Co2 detectors       >> should be fixed on a wall, not the ceiling because heat that stows       >> above will stop detection, and the detector should be 15 feet away       >> from the source of heat. Rgds       >>       > CO2 is heavier/denser then air either,       > having about the same molar mass 44 g/mol as propane.       >       > But the point is - at the same temperature.       >       > Hot enough CO2 is lighter/less dense than cold air,       > and additionally, there is not only CO2,       > but the majority is nitrogen, and also water vapours,       > that further decrease the density .       >       > So gases need not to be very hot       > to be less dense than normal air at ambient temperature.       >       > The gas from a fire climbs up, not falls down.       >              But does anyone actually have CO2 detectors? Maybe the OP is really       talking about CO detectors. CO is slightly lighter than air, but I       would be surprised if the small difference were significant.       --       *********** To reply by e-mail, make w single in address **************              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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