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   Message 54,722 of 55,615   
   Luis Torres to John Osborn   
   Re: symmetry-smart chem-draw/coordinate-   
   02 Oct 20 20:32:17   
   
   From: luistorres702@gmail.com   
      
   On Tuesday, November 9, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, John Osborn wrote:   
   > ASG wrote:   
   > >   
   > > In article <3826F3...@br.ac.uk>,   
   > > John Osborn  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > the following relatively   
   > > > old compilation specifies the point groups for many of the entries:   
   > > > Landolt-Bornstein Numerical Data and Functional Relationships in   
   > > > Science and Technology, New Series (ed. A Encken): Group II, vol. 7 -   
   > > > Structure Data of Free Polyatomic Molecules.   
   > NB The editor given above is the editor of the entire series, not of   
   > this particular volume: it may not be catalogued in a library under   
   > the name of Encken.   
   > > Thanks; I'll look it up. BTW, are these standard QM or ctystallographic   
   > > point groups? I'm looking for the former.   
   > I don't know what you mean by a standard QM point group. The point   
   > groups in the above data set are simply the conventional point groups   
   > of the molecules in question. They may or may not happen to be   
   > crystallographic point groups, depending on whether or not   
   > all symmetry elements in a given molecule are capable of existing in   
   > a crystal (i.e. the point group will be a crystallographic point   
   > group if the only proper or improper rotation axes in the molecule   
   > are 1-, 2-, 3-, 4- or 6-fold axes; there may or may not be an   
   > inversion centre and/or mirror plane(s) as well). If a particular   
   > gas phase molecule does happen to have a crystallographic point   
   > group (which many do), this does not mean that the compound will   
   > crystallise with a crystal structure having that particular group:   
   > some or all of the symmetry elements may be lost on crystallisation.   
   > --   
   > John Osborn   
   > University of Bradford, UK.   
   > To reply by email, replace "br" by "bradford" in my email address.   
   How did you guys do since then?   
      
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