From: T@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 11/18/21 06:06, dlzc wrote:   
   > Dear T:   
   >   
   > On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 5:45:15 PM UTC-7, T wrote:   
   > ...   
   >> There are now laundry perfumes and fabric finishes   
   >> (that are highly scented) that are not meant to   
   >> wash out. They toxic substances are very difficult   
   >> on folks with allergies, especially asthma. They   
   >> don't wash out.   
   > ...   
   >> I am a computer consultant. I pick these chemicals   
   >> up when I sit in other people's chairs, or just by   
   >> entering a room where someone uses these chemicals.   
   >> Also, grocery shopping. I DO NOT use scented   
   >> products around my house. The worst is chairs though.   
   >   
   > You aren't going to "wash" a chair.  For a chair, just use Tyvek or a   
   plastic sheet, to minimize air exchange.   
   >   
   > If you hadn't said "asthma", I would have suggested an ozone generator, say   
   1 gm/hr.  Ozone directly attacks aromatics (heat, humidity, and visible light   
   helps), but it also "blinds" the nose (and triggers asthmatics).  More than   
   likely, you will have    
   to compress and decompress the chair's cushions a few times, to exchange ozone   
   into the material / foam.  Hot vinegar fumes might do as well, and do less   
   damage.   
   >   
   > I have seen phenomenal results bagging items, pulling all the vacuum a shop   
   vac can pull, let fresh air into the bag, and repeat as necessary.  The "fresh   
   air" could have different compounds added, since they will be pulled down into   
   the materials that    
   are at lower pressures.   
   >   
   > Good luck.   
   >   
   > David A. Smith   
   >   
      
   I find aluminum foil on a chair very effective, except   
   it insults the customer and/or they think you are too   
   weird to ever call back, so ...   
      
   I have covered shelves in our laundry room with foil   
   kill the out gassing from the previous owner's   
   laundry perfumes.   
      
   We have had no luck with vinegar.  Vinegar use to work   
   wonders until these new persistent perfumes came out.   
      
   Are they alcohol soluble?  If so, how would you remove   
   them.  How about fat and wax soluble?  You would think   
   hot water and detergent would whack them ??  Then   
   there are the nanoparticles.   
      
   In the past, I have read some of the patents and scents   
   are triggered by body heat.  They do comes off in hot   
   water, but they won't stop coming off.  It is like   
   I have discovered perpetual motion.   
      
   You mentioned vacuum?   
      
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