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|    Treon Verdery to All    |
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|    05 Sep 22 00:40:48    |
      From: treon3verdery@gmail.com               Could phonons, plasmons (arrays of atoms and holes that move; physically       translate, while retaining order), or higher velocity spintronic equivalents,       propagate information as little plasmonic groups cross edges through a medium,       possibly a        preservative or amplifying medium, to transport the specific layout of atoms,       and just possibly some of their quantum states to a Reader like a 3d       embroidery hoop or coating surrounding the object. The plasmons migrating       might have error-reduction        bitwise operations similar to a cellular automata to preclude data dilution       with propagation out to the plasmon reader coating.              I hard about something called spintronics; does spintronics have a       plasmon/phonon equivalent? Spintronics could be much higher velocity than       electron hole plasmons.              Plasmon/phonon data reporting transporter Applications such as knowing what is       inside a crystal could possibly go with new radiation, particle, and vibration       (like Thz), EM, detectors to make new kinds of sensors. New kinds of sensors       benefits robots and        automation.              It is well travelled at things I write, but could the new scientist quantum       camera that makes a figurine outline from quantum-entangled photon absorption       at the figurine surface simulataneously at the sensing surface of the computer       camera to make an        image of the figure without a direct/transmission/reflected optical path be       combined with a plamonic/phonic crystal to create new kinds of detectors.        Combining quantum camera with plamonics creates new detectors and depth       vision. The phonons would        migrate until they reached an edge or a crystal anomaly (from the crystal       detecting something), then on reaching a crystal novelty-center would change       and cause their different sibling quantum-linked phonon or plasmon, which was       at the surface of a        reader/sensor, like a computer camera (at the figurine example), to be       specifically quantum polarized (possible spin polarized) from entanglement;       that images the 3d shape as well as likely the energy level and form of the       thing the first plasmon reacts        to. This is a way of seeing at depth of materials, possibly 3d computer       chips, or even cytomaterials or tissues as when you put a nanosized plasmon       generating crystal next to a cyte, then the nanocrystal makes propagating       phonons/plamons which wash up        and possibly penetrate the cytomembrane and cytostructure, while what they       see/react to is recorded from the quantum camera effect.              One vague idea I have about reading plamonics/phonons at a perimeter or edge       is that little or large organic molecules could have a plasmonic       representation; say the edge of a quiltlike plasmon just touches the edge of a       little organic molecule, like a        carbohydrate. The quilt hops around the carbohydrate molecule, Near-touching,       plasmonically/phononically modifying the plamon-quilt, without reacting       chemically with the carbohydrate. So rather than an atomic force microscope       tip, the plasmonic quilt        changes its internal plasmon matrix (possibly an actively computing matrix       like a cellular automata) at each of the c-c-c of the carbohydrate. The       carbohydrate goes unreacted but it is read/stored plasmonically. Just for       niftyness: I read about a time        crystal at wikipedia, sort of a crystal with more than one stable ground state       so it automatically rotates through states; so a plasmonic/phononic time       crystal could iterate the matrix-quilt while transporting measurements to a       quilt-internal or external        computer/sensor.                       Math of statistics and finding things out: A human looking at a map of US       states and counties can tell which are the richest. Then, as a lay perceptor,       I think humans do actual math correlations/other equations and/or just gaze at       the way overlain data        sets fit. People looking at previously uncombined data sets sometimes find       new (perceived) trends which can then be tested as hypothesis.              database comparisons as instantaneous statements of matrice data are       reminiscent of finding actual predictive relationships at data, that could be       tested, or have highly unique probability of occuring other than by chance       (like a P value, but better and        nonspecific); So looking at the counties you could predict college attendance       by county wealth, even if you were absent a theory as t why.              So that brings up the math of what is the minimal matrix or block size to make       a 2d map overlain on an integer dataset. Like, how good a tic-tac-toe board or       hexagonal tile plane do you need to get a semivisual guide to data 1) where a       human glancing at        the visual it would see a trend (fMRI) 2) where an AI, like a deep learning       AI, would imitate a human glancing and find a trend, and 3) where some actual       math at an actual formula would find a trend (like multimodality or even       east-west gradient at tic        tac toe board) parsimoniously from less data.              So are there entire areas of the observable universe that fulfill the math of       hypothesisless true correlation? These might be an area of science, and the       technology that comes from it, that are particularly easy and effective to       investigate. This brings        up a new (undecidability notation)form of D3 island of truthiness; an physics       and other science actual area separate from deduction or induction.               My perception is that some of science, like physics, uses reduction       (simplification) to produce predictable, modellable components, like electrons       or photons or math-fields, then build up larger things from these; the esteem       goes to the theories that        most effectively build up models that accurately predict the observed       universe. That process reminds me of a combination of induction and       deduction. That said if math areas of hypothesisless correlation create       islands of truthiness (D3) completely        outside and different than induction and/or deduction then there could be a       restatement of physics, and new physics research, based on math areas of       hypothesisless truthiness. The only one (math;hypothesisless;truthiness) that       I think of instantly is        the dubious (yet possibly testable): Math winnowing of anthropic principle       variants at a multiverse kind of set-theory implies: If you perceive you       exist, then it must be at a physics that permits that.              Now testability matters, notably at core, as there is not way to tell if an       actual existing system is constructed in part with a non-hypothesisless math       component. Keep doing the science experiments.              Math entertainment:              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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