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|    Treon Verdery to All    |
|    =?UTF-8?Q?Another_decanoic=2Dacid_=2810H    |
|    04 Oct 22 01:08:57    |
      From: treon3verdery@gmail.com              A different decanoic acid, that could also be screened for longevity effects       is an antimicrobial, “A recently developed biofilm inhibitor, cis-2-decenoic       acid (C2DA)” if C2DA is like an order of magnitude or two more       antimicrobial than 10HDA, “       C2DA at concentrations of 500 μg/mL and above inhibited growth, while 125       μg/mL C2DA inhibited biofilm. Combination with antibiotics increased these       effects. At concentrations up to 500 μg/mL, there were no cytotoxic effects       on fibroblasts.”               it is possible it has other characteristics as well, and screening it for       longevity effects at c elegans could be beneficial                            a 12 C fatty acid, that looks kind of like 10HDA that could be screened for       longevity effects is : “cis-2-decenoic acid appears to be functionally and       structurally related to the class of short-chain fatty acid signaling       molecules such as diffusible        signal factor which act as cell-to-cell communication molecules in bacteria       and fungi.”, “characterized a substituted fatty acid messenger,       cis-11-methyl-2-dodecenoic acid, called diffusible signal factor (DSF)”                            also, “Treatments consisted of spent medium, CSM, cis-2-decenoic acid,       trans-2-decenoic acid, decanoic acid, and DSF at various concentrations.”,       “cis isomer of 2-decenoic acid was the organic compound” [that caused       biofilms to disperse], “The        compounds with the highest activity were two isomers of 2-decenoic acid. The       trans isomer (trans-2-decenoic acid) was shown by microtiter plate dispersion       bioassay to have activity only at millimolar concentrations, typically not low       enough to qualify as        a cell-cell signaling molecule. Figure Figure5B5B shows the dispersion       activity of increasing concentrations of cis-2-decenoic acid against biofilm       cultures of P. aeruginosa grown in microtiter plates. These results       demonstrated that the cis isomer (cis-       2-decenoic acid) was active over a concentration range from 1.0 nM to 10 mM”              There is some perspective here where a decanoic acid, of a slight variation       (cis rather than trans) is like an actual 1 million times more effective       (nanomoles compared with millimoles)at causing bacterial biofilms to detach;       so that brings up the        possibility, noting that DAEE causes greater happiness, better healing, and       other benefits at 2.9 mg/70Kg/24 hour human, that there could be a a 10HDA       version that has longevity effects at a couple orders of magnitude fewer atoms       per dose, or,        beneficially, has a longevity effect ten times larger than 27% (10HDA at       mice), notably salicylic acid causes yeast to live more than 400% longer, so       this could be possible; among organisms, a 720 minute longevity bug, compared       with a half century        duration termite queen is a a 36,500 times longevity difference, and at       mammals, a yearlong rodent compared with a 211 year whale is a 21100%       longevity difference; The antarctic sponge has a lifespan of 15550 years or       longer;                            longevity technology: 10HDA at royal jelly is published as an HDACinhibitor,       causing acetylation which velocitizes and causes DNA transcription at       histones, I perceive I read a variety of HDACinhibitors have longevity and       wellness effects, So, as a        beneficial complementary thing to making a bunch of 10HDA (or 10H2DA)       molecular variants and then screening them to find out if they cause greater       longevity at yeast, c elegans and 96 well plate vertebrate fish, and mammals,       they could make a bunch of        molecular variants of 10HDA that could be and quantified as to their       effectiveness as HDAC inhibitors, and noted as to their dose (mcg/ng)       effectiveness at causing HDAC inhibition at a variety of HDACs and       effectiveness at histones at cytostructures of a        variety of species, including humans, This gives all kinds of new molecular       modification possibilities of being effective: 10HDA dimers, halogenated       10HDA, 10HDA linked to a nuclear membrane transport peptide, 10HDA with a       butyrate (or propynate)        attached to it, or a valproate, basically any HDAC inhibitor molecule       partially modified to have a 10HDA on it, As a molecular library to screen,       come up with a few hundred 10HDA variations all of which have a possibility of       being a better, faster,        stronger, more reaching of tissues that 10DHA might not usually reach HDAC       inhibitor, then screen the library of those hundreds of 10HDA molecule       variants, with things like multiwell plates with yeast, also c elegans can be       used to quantify better faster        stronger HDACinhibiting effects; Then at humans these versions might also       cause greater longevity at few mg or ug/dose                                   [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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