XPost: alt.home.repair, rec.food.baking   
   From: NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com   
      
   In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:20:13 +0100, Bradley   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 9/29/2023 4:08 AM, micky wrote:   
   >> I think appliance bulbs are designed primarily for ovens.   Anything   
   >> that can handle an oven can surely handle a refrigerator and even a   
   >> freezer.   So I think "normal" is all there is.   
   >   
   >I just noticed this oven has a "self cleaning" feature, which, I think,   
   >just ramps up the temperature to as hot as it can get - which seems to me   
   >to be brutal on these "normal" appliance 30W to 40W bulbs.   
   >   
   >I think it's odd they're limiting teh heat in the wires to the 30W or 40W   
   >when the wires must be getting heated up to over five hundred degrees from   
   >the oven. Why not a 100W bulb for that matter? No big deal. I'm sure 30W or   
   >40W is enough to see inside the oven (once I cleaned the glass that is).   
   >   
   >I used straight ammonia - which seems to work reasonably well on the glass   
   >plate in the door of the oven. I wonder if the self-cleaning actually   
   >works.   
      
   Mine did and does.  I had a Kenmore / Whirlpool when I used it a bunch   
   of times, and now a GE, and I've used it once or twice.  Definitely   
   works well.  Maybe you're supposed to clean up the ash after you run it   
   but I never did.   
   >   
   >Anyone use the self cleaning feature?   
   >Does it work?   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>>Given Sylvania didn't last - is there a better brand   
   >>   
   >> HOw long had it been in there?   
   >   
   >If I admit that, you'll think I haven't been maintaining the home.   
   >It has been broken for so long that I don't even know how long it has been   
   >in there - but it has to be years.   
      
   Then how can you say it didn't last?  Few things lasts forever.   
   >   
   >The reason I cleaned it is a woman had all four limbs amputated recently in   
   >the news because she ate uncooked tilapia fish so I wanted to put a   
      
   Yikes.   
      
   >thermometer in the oven which hasn't arrived yet so I could SEE what the   
   >oven temperature really is.   
   >   
   >Then I also bought a thermometer that goes into the fish or poultry or meat   
   >after it's pulled out of the oven - and I tried to get a water proof one   
   >but couldn't find any on Amazon.   
   >   
   >It's a safety thing.   
   >1. The oven thermometer was to check the temperature in the oven   
   >2. The cleaning of the door glass was to see that oven thermometer   
   >3. Then I realized the oven light was off so nothing could be seen   
   >4. And then when the meat comes out - I can stab it with the other one   
   >   
   >I was surprised that a thermometer can be inside an oven but not under   
   >water. Seems to me it should be able to take both heat and water.   
      
   YOu can complain to whoever is in charge.   
      
   >What I wanted was a thermometer that will last forever without batteries.   
   >   
   >>>or source other than Amazon, Home Depot or Walmart?   
   >>   
   >> On further thought, digging deep into my memory, I thinnnnk that the   
   >> difference with an appliance bulb is that it's covered in plastic, so   
   >> when it breaks you wont' get glass all over the place, since stoves and   
   >> fridges are harder to clean.  Anyone remember that?   
   >   
   >This one doesn't 'seem' to have a plastic shell.   
   >But there is a big glass protective shell that you screw in around it.   
   >I have that big glass protective shell dunked in ammonia right now.   
   >It went from black to almost clear in a few hours of the ammonia.   
   >   
   >Anyone know what's the best chemical to clean an oven?   
   >It has black baked on crud everywhere.   
      
   Use the self-cleaning for gosh sakes.  Why are you avoiding that?   
   Depending on where  you live, it's cold enough out now that it will   
   supplement your furnace.   
      
   Ask any housewife and they will tell you that cleaning the oven is one   
   of the worst cleaning jobs.  That's why the previous owner bought   
   self-cleaning.  You won't be able to use the oven for 2 or 3 hours while   
   it's cleaning, and another half-hour while it's cooling off.  The door   
   will be locked.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> And that it comes in 30w or some size that regular bulbs don't.   And   
   >> that it's smaller to fit in the space provided.   
   >   
   >The bulb is smaller. So I'll have to buy an "appliance" bulb.   
   >Which is OK. I just don't want it to melt like this one did in between   
   >where the metal is glued onto the glass from the heat.   
      
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