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   kdthrge@gmail.com to All   
   Re: Denialism rears it's ugly head   
   13 Jun 18 07:20:21   
   
   Up yours with your 'settled science'. Here is clear PROOF that co2 DOES NOT   
   DRIVE TEMPERATURE.   
   You are very welcome to keep your head up your ass and ignore this prima facie   
   fact, as you will do.   
   But your attempts to implement your carbon bullshit in the US will be DENIED.   
      
   Ice cores and analysis for 650,000 have been collected.    
      
   A simple graph of this entire period shows correlation to temperature and co2.   
   But a closer look and analysis clearly shows the co2, lagging the temperature   
   by about 1000 yrs.    
      
   Algore used this large graph to claim evidence of co2 driving the climate. In   
   the propaganda lawsuit against him in Britain, the judge ruled that he was in   
   contradiction to established science in his statements in this part of his   
   movie.    
      
   All studies show this lag, including close examination of last 100,000 yrs,   
   the warmup at 18,000 yrs, the marked warm-up of 12000 yrs and the Holocene of   
   8000 yrs, or the warmest point of this interglacial period, in which   
   tempertures were àbove 2C of    
   the 1950 'mean'. Temperatures are well below this level of Holocene.    
      
   That air concentrations of co2 change with changing temperature, is easily   
   explained by basic chemistry of partial pressure between air and ocean, and   
   perhaps effect on circulation of currents. There are MASSSIVE amounts of   
   carbon at the bottom of the    
   ocean, with very little oxygen.    
      
   What the lag shows, is that temperature begins rising for some other reason   
   than co2. When the co2 begins to rise, no effect upon temperature graph can be   
   detected.    
      
   When temperature begins to fall,  co2 continues to rise for 1000 yrs. Clearly   
   in these regions co2 is NOT DRIVING TEMPERATURES. At points then, temperature   
   does an uptick, while co2 is still falling.    
      
   The nature and process of greenie science is to hide and exclude studies which   
   show no evidence that co2 is driving climate at all. Damn sure don't see the   
   graph that shows temperatures going off the charts through the 90s and then   
   becoming DEAD FLAT for    
   the past 20 yrs, with a gradient of about 0.15 degC, PER CENTURY.    
      
   In law, ommision of perinent fact is fraud.    
   In law the term 'PROOF' has meaning, although in academic theoretics it has   
   been eliminated.    
      
   The academics should be held accountable for every scrap of their submissions,   
   past and present and their pertinent OMISSIONS, and put their name on it.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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