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|    Very Flawed, Anti-Science AGW Denier Log    |
|    30 Jan 19 19:02:48    |
      XPost: soc.culture.usa, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, soc.culture.indian       XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.politics.trump, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.conservative, alt.politics.republican       XPost: alt.politics.republicans, talk.environment, alt.politics.economics       XPost: talk.politics.misc       From: hannity_is_gay@fox.net              What are denialist conspiracy theories and why should people be       instantly distrustful of them? And what do they have to do with       denialism?              Almost every denialist argument will eventually devolve into a       conspiracy. This is because denialist theories that oppose       well-established science eventually need to assert deception on       the part of their opponents to explain things like why every       reputable scientist, journal, and opponent seems to be able to       operate from the same page. In the crank mind, it isn't because       their opponents are operating from the same set of facts, it's       that all their opponents are liars (or fools) who are using the       same false set of information.              But how could it be possible, for instance, for every nearly       every scientist in a field be working together to promote a       falsehood? People who believe this is possible simply have no       practical understanding of how science works as a discipline.       For one, scientists don't just publish articles that reaffirm a       consensus opinion. Articles that just rehash what is already       known or say "everything is the same" aren't interesting and       don't get into good journals. Scientific journals are only       interested in articles that extend knowledge, or challenge       consensus (using data of course). Articles getting published in       the big journals like Science or Nature are often revolutionary       (and not infrequently wrong), challenge the expectations of       scientists or represent some phenomenal experiment or hard work       (like the human genome project). The idea that scientists would       keep some kind of exceptional secret is absurd, or that, in the       instance of evolution deniers, we only believe in evolution       because we've been infiltrated by a cabal of "materialists" is       even more absurd. This is not to say that real conspiracies       never occur, but the assertion of a conspiracy in the absence       of evidence (or by tying together weakly correlated and       nonsensical data) is usually the sign of a crackpot. Belief in       the Illuminati, Zionist conspiracies, 9/11 conspiracies,       holocaust denial conspiracies, materialist atheist evolution       conspiracies, global warming science conspiracies, UFO       government conspiracies, pharmaceutical companies suppressing       altie-med conspiracies, or what have you, it almost always       rests upon some unnatural suspension of disbelief in the       conspiracy theorist that is the sign of a truly weak mind.       Hence, our graphic to denote the presence of these arguments -       the tinfoil hat.              Another common conspiratorial attack on consensus science       (without data) is that science is just some old-boys club (not       saying it's entirely free of it but...) and we use peer-review       to silence dissent. This is a frequent refrain of HIV/AIDS       denialists like Dean Esmay or Global Warming denialists like       Richard Lindzen trying to explain why mainstream scientists       won't publish their BS. The fact is that good science speaks       for itself, and peer-reviewers are willing to publish things       that challenge accepted facts if the data are good. If you're       just a denialist cherry-picking data and nitpicking the work of       others, you're out of luck. Distribution of scientific funding       (another source of conspiracy from denialists) is similarly       based on novelty and is not about repeating some kind of party       line. Yes, it's based on study-sections and peer-review of       grants, but the idea that the only studies that get funded are       ones that affirm existing science is nuts, if anything it's the       opposite.              Lately, there's been a lot of criticism of the excess focus on       novelty in distribution of funding and in what gets accepted       into journals. I encourage all scientists and those interested       in science to watch this video of John Ioannidis giving grand       rounds at NIH on how science gets funded, published, and sadly,       often proven wrong. I put it up at google video. He is the       author of "Why most published research findings are false"       published in PLoS last year. It's proof that science is       perfectly willing to be critical of itself, more than happy to       publish exceptional things that often turn out wrong, but       ultimately, highly self-correcting.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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