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|    Antarctica very very cold: Surprise -- n    |
|    02 Oct 21 23:46:02    |
      XPost: alt.global-warming              EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:       - Newspapers are (again) full of stories about "anomalous" happenings        in Antarctica. Some place was record cold.       - The data from the 1950 shows annual min temps in Antarctica are        declining rapidly.       - But at the same time annual average min temps are increasing rapidly.       - Journalists and hillbillies yet again have been tricked by how        averages work.       - Not only is the Antarctic a continent at extreme latitudes, it is a        continent of high elevations. Extremes are amplified in all kinds of        ways and we should all be not surprised that outliers can be more        outlier-y as time goes by.        But even so average temps go right on rising in line with the rest        of the world, modulo polar amplification -- the tendency for polar        regions to warm about 2x faster than the global average        because AGW don't quit in winter or nighttime like the sun does.                     Have been noticing a lot of these type of things:               South Pole posts most severe cold season on record, a surprise in a ...        The Washington Post, 01 Oct 2021 23:05Z        The average temperature at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station        between April and Sept, a frigid minus-78 degrees (minus-61        Celsius), was...                     It seems hillbillies are not the only ones that don't understand what       Antarctica is. Perhaps the mental model journalists are using is       "roughly like the US48". But no, it isn't.              Not only is the Antarctic at an extreme latitude, it is also a huge       continent. The further from the ocean, the more extreme the temperatures.              If that weren't enough, most of the continent is at extreme altitudes       -- 3000m to 4000m.       For each 1 km in elev we expect the ambient temperature to drop 5-10C.       This is why airlines need to have great a/c or passengers would       arrive as ice-blocks.       High altitudes are also a recipe for extreme swings in temperature.              So it is no surprise some stations in the Antarctic see big       negative numbers for their temperatures. And no big surprise year to       year extreme lows can become more and more extreme.       This might be further amplified by a record that only goes back to       the 1950s and not 1650s like some parts of the wider world.              But extreme lows are just that -- extremes. Outliers. They are not       "average" or "typical".              The average temperature of the continent is increasing, and       increasing faster than the world average.              If we look at the GHCN met stations for lats 60-90S and just do a       "no fiddlin widda nummers" hillbilly type average of the daily minimum       temperatures (TMIN) year by year and find:                     Year Avg Antarctic TMIN deg C        (58 locations from GHCN v3)       1954 -16.4502       1955 -13.6227       1956 -22.3949       1957 -23.5781       1958 -22.8924       1959 -21.7169       1960 -21.9339       1961 -20.664       1962 -21.2948       1963 -21.0083       1964 -22.2238       1965 -22.7139       1966 -26.6514       1967 -26.8548       1968 -28.0013       1969 -20.9729       1970 -18.9807       1971 -17.0016       1972 -17.362       1973 -17.6208       1974 -17.3071       1975 -18.8002       1976 -17.7157       1977 -16.9576       1978 -17.4246       1979 -19.475       1980 -18.5425       1981 -15.6921       1982 -18.8992       1983 -17.2787       1984 -16.9378       1985 -15.7835       1986 -14.6476       1987 -14.5996       1988 -13.6112       1989 -13.4817       1990 -14.7149       1991 -14.8549       1992 -15.4195       1993 -15.059       1994 -11.8136       1995 -15.0389       1996 -11.1248       1997 -12.738       1998 -12.7646       1999 -13.0097       2000 -12.8669       2001 -12.9656       2002 -12.4601       2003 -11.4131       2004 -12.7545       2005 -13.7894       2006 -12.9591       2007 -14.5071       2008 -14.161       2009 -14.655       2010 -14.4311       2011 -14.4339       2012 -13.4915       2013 -12.7282       2014 -13.2168       2015 -14.0971       2016 -13.6024       2017 -12.1884                     No surprise there is a warming trend. This hillbilly avg has a warming       trend of 15 degrees per century. Which is what happens when you use       hillbilly methods. Most scientists would say the warming rate is around       1.8C per century, maybe increasing a bit as time goes by.       (See Berkeley Earth for all the gory details).              But at the same time we can look at the loest of all temps for each year       and SURPRISE:              year min TMIN       1954 -30       1955 -30       1956 -61.1       1957 -74.4       1958 -74.4       1959 -78.9       1960 -77.2       1961 -74.4       1962 -75.6       1963 -78.9       1964 -72.8       1965 -80.6       1966 -85       1967 -84.4       1968 -86.1       1969 -77.8       1970 -75.6       1971 -75.6       1972 -73.3       1973 -73.9       1974 -77.2       1975 -75       1976 -76.1       1977 -75       1978 -77.8       1979 -76.1       1980 -74.4       1981 -76.7       1982 -82.8       1983 -75.6       1984 -75.6       1985 -75       1986 -79.4       1987 -72.8       1988 -72.8       1989 -72.8       1990 -82.6       1991 -82.9       1992 -74.5       1993 -84.2       1994 -64.4       1995 -80.6       1996 -73       1997 -84.6       1998 -85.6       1999 -81.9       2000 -81.7       2001 -78.1       2002 -80.3       2003 -54.4       2004 -82.1       2005 -85.4       2006 -79.3       2007 -81.3       2008 -84.1       2009 -80.1       2010 -81.8       2011 -78.7       2012 -84.2       2013 -79.1       2014 -80.8       2015 -81.1       2016 -81.6       2017 -78.2              There's a strong cooling of about 11 deg per cent.              The average daily min is warming at an horrific rate yet the lowest TMIN       each year is decreasing at an horrific rate.              No surprise, atall atall.              It's a place where horrific things happen alla time.              --       Upcoming events:       8 Oct NOAA Billion-Dollar Disasters Q3 update              Democrats' clean electricity plan to require 85 GW of renewable energy       additions a year: S&P       Utility Dive, 01 Oct 2021              Victorian police arrest protesters at rally against vaccine mandates       ABC News, 02 Oct 2021 07:15Z       Police arrest more than 100 people and disperse a small protest       against Victoria's COVID-19 vaccination rules, after the govt       announced a mandate.       [Got stuck down in Broadmeadows for a couple hrs when police shut the       train system down].              Chinese tech giants roll out more courier robots as demand grows for       contactless services       ABC News, 02 Oct 2021 07:14Z       More than a 1000 robots are set to join the delivery services of Chinese       tech giants Alibaba, Meituan and JD.com over the next year, as the       continuing COVID-19 pandemic fuels demand for contactless services and the       cost of making robots drops.              'Never thought we'd have to do this': Britons pushed to food banks as       govt winds up COVID-19 pandemic aid       ABC News, 02 Oct 2021 05:10Z       Charity food banks in Britain say they are already near full capacity as       winter closes in, and are gearing up for a surge in demand.              Is the Coronavirus Getting Better at Airborne Transmission?       The New York Times, 01 Oct 2021 21:25Z              Mercury Ahead! 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