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   R Kym Horsell to governor.swill@gmail.com   
   Re: Too many heads are still in the sand   
   19 Oct 22 01:01:59   
   
   XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.global-warming   
   From: kym@kymhorsell.com   
      
   In alt.global-warming governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:   
   > On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 14:50:54 -0400, "Scout"   
   >  wrote:   
   ...   
   >>I mean if you're frantic over a possible 1C increase.. you will crap   
   >>yourself when it looks like a 20C drop.   
   > A 20C drop would return us to ice planet status.  Even the tropics   
   > would freeze in winter.   
   > If you don't understand science, don't make scientific comments.   
   ...   
      
   Yes, 20C came out of someone's ass.   
   The so-called "ice age unit" is 5C. A change of 5C takes the   
   20th cent climate back into the last glaciation with 1 mi of ice over   
   Chicago but still tropical weather in the Carrib and elsewhere.   
      
   A change in 20C is an horrific amount that would happen if Earth   
   became a desert world like Mars  with no ocean and no atmosphere,   
   or an iceball world that reflected most of the sun's warmth back into   
   space (in which case chicken and egg problem -- how did it get to   
   be an iceball?).   
      
   Many gases with more than 2 atoms in their molecules are GHG   
   because the change in geometry possible with 3+ atoms allows   
   the molecule to absorb energy at infra-red frequencies -- the   
   stuff that is coming up from the earth (the stuff coming from the   
   sun is mostly in the green region of visible light).   
      
   The levels of CO2, CH4, ozone, wavter vapor, etc is "well know"   
   to be resposible for keeping the Earth ~30C warmer than it would be   
   without greenhouse gases in our atmosphere. If it were not for CO2   
   and friends the avg temp of the earth would be closer to -15C than   
   the 15C it was in the 20th cent and it would be an iceball.   
      
   --   
   Dunning-Kruger Effect: Ignorance and Overconfidence Affect   
   Intuitive Thinking, New Study Says   
   The Debrief, 13 Apr 2021   
   In a newly published study, researchers say the Dunning-Kruger Effect   
   can cause low-performers to overestimate their judgments during the   
   intuitive decision-making process.   
   According to the study published in the journal Frontiers in   
   Psychology on April 8, 2021, researchers found that persons with the   
   highest number of errors demonstrated the highest degree of   
   miscalibration, or overconfidence, in their actual performance on the   
   cognitive reflection test.   
      
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