home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   sci.environment      Discussions about the environment and ec      198,385 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 198,147 of 198,385   
   De-Trois-Leaning to Alan   
   Re: OT: Go ahead, explain how this isn't   
   23 Sep 24 09:02:26   
   
   XPost: can.politics, alt.california, or.politics   
   XPost: seattle.politics, alt.politics.media   
   From: dtl@invalid.net   
      
   Alan wrote:   
   > On 2024-09-20 17:26, citizen winston smith wrote:   
   >> On 9/20/2024 5:41 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >>> On 2024-09-20 16:30, citizen winston smith wrote:   
   >>>> On 9/20/2024 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >>>>> You agree there is no actual faucet   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Metaphor/semantics war.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The sign of a LUSER!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2015/04/10/a-water-pipeline-   
   >>>> from- oregon-to-california/   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article237605349.html   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-06-21/columbia-river-   
   >>>> water- pipeline   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://columbiainsight.org/for-drought-plagues-california-diverting-   
   columbia-river-water-is-a-pipe-dream-for-now/   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> For decades, the Pacific Northwest has responded to and fended off   
   >>>> efforts to divert its water, particularly from the Columbia River,   
   >>>> to the Southwest, and particularly to California or Colorado.   
   >>>   
   >>> This was not metaphor.   
   >>>   
   >>> He said it LITERALLY existed.   
   >>   
   >> Metaphor, uncited metaphor too.   
   >   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   > Start at 59:54 into the speech   
      
   Great speech, thx for the link!   
      
   I missed it on RSBN.   
      
   https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/22/delta-smelt-   
   ish-trump-california-aoe   
      
   "Last fall, Trump signed a memorandum directing federal agencies to   
   review and roll back environmental standards slowing down the flow of   
   water to farms in the Central Valley. In February this year, the   
   president nominated David Bernhardt to serve as his interior secretary.   
      
   ...turning down the pumps isn’t quite as easy as shutting off a faucet.   
   The multi-story state and federal pumping plants operate in tandem and   
   are powerful enough to make rivers flow backward.   
      
   If the delta smelt go, California may be able to pump some more."   
      
   https://envirobites.org/2019/06/24/farmers-vs-fish-the-story-of-delta-smelt/   
      
   "To move water around, over 1,400 dams and miles of aqueducts have been   
   constructed. A tidal wetland-turned-agricultural land, the Sacramento –   
   San Joaquin Delta is the center of California’s water distribution   
   system. About half of California’s developed water moves through the   
   delta via two pumping plants: Central Valley Project (CVP) and the State   
   Water Project."   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Valley_Project   
      
   "The Central Valley Project (CVP) is a federal power and water   
   management project in the U.S. state of California under the supervision   
   of the United States Bureau of Reclamation (USBR). It was devised in   
   1933 in order to provide irrigation and municipal water to much of   
   California's Central Valley—by regulating and storing water in   
   reservoirs in the northern half of the state (once considered water-rich   
   but suffering water-scarce conditions more than half the year in most   
   years), and transporting it to the water-poor San Joaquin Valley and its   
   surroundings by means of a series of canals, aqueducts and pump plants,   
   some shared with the California State Water Project (SWP). Many CVP   
   water users are represented by the Central Valley Project Water Association.   
      
      
   Two large reservoirs, Shasta Lake and Trinity Lake, are formed by a pair   
   of dams in the mountains north of the Sacramento Valley. Water from   
   Shasta Lake flows into the Sacramento River which flows to the   
   Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta and water from Trinity Lake flows into the   
   Trinity River which leads to the Pacific Ocean. Both lakes release water   
   at controlled rates. There, before it can flow on to San Francisco Bay   
   and the Pacific Ocean, some of the water is intercepted by a diversion   
   channel and transported to the Delta-Mendota Canal, which conveys water   
   southwards through the San Joaquin Valley, supplying water to San Luis   
   Reservoir (a SWP-shared facility) and the San Joaquin River at Mendota   
   Pool in the process, eventually reaching canals that irrigates farms in   
   the valley. Friant Dam crosses the San Joaquin River upstream of Mendota   
   Pool, diverting its water southwards into canals that travel into the   
   Tulare Lake area of the San Joaquin Valley, as far south as the Kern   
   River. Finally, New Melones Lake, a separate facility, stores water flow   
   of a San Joaquin River tributary for use during dry periods. Other   
   smaller, independent facilities exist to provide water to local   
   irrigation districts"   
      
   https://water.ca.gov/programs/state-water-project   
      
   https://water.ca.gov/Programs/State-Water-Project/Operations-and-Maintenance   
      
      
   Big old shutoff valve = check!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca