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   -hh to Governor Swill   
   Re: Americans Ready For Green New Deal   
   10 Feb 26 21:48:51   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: recscuba_google@huntzinger.com   
      
   On 2/10/26 18:45, Governor Swill wrote:   
   > On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 12:51:50 -0700, Mars Sellus  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 14:37:46 -0500   
   >> -hh  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> HH makes a fool of himself again.   
   >>>   
   >>> Nah:   
   >>>   
   >>> His cite was that in 2024, renewables were less than 50%.   
   >>> My cite was that in 2025, renewables were now more than 50%.   
   >>   
   >> No, you LIED,as you always do Huntzy Hypoxia:   
   >   
   > His references were to WA and NT.  Yours is to the country as a whole.   
   >   
   > You're using 2023-2024 data, he's using 2025 data.   
      
   December 2025, specifically, as that's what was the report.   
      
      
   > When engaged in debate, it's important to be sure you and your   
   > opponent are on the same page and speaking the same language.   
      
   And to not lie.   
      
   > He used a graph from an Instagram post which, imo, is in error.  Here   
   > is the actual data from the quoted source used in the instagram post.   
   >   
   >    
      
   Thanks for that cite; I've been following the Australia renewables topic   
   for awhile.   
      
      
   > You'll find a rapid increase in renewables especially solar and wind   
   > and that the nationwide mix is currently 56-44 fossil to renewables   
   > with renewables on target to be the majority power source before 2030.   
      
   Using a 30 Day metric (closest match to the original cite), it shows   
   the national average at 47.7% renewables +1.8% batteries, vs 50.5%   
   fossil fuels: that's less than 1% until majority renewable - as would be   
   expected with deployment of renewables increasing by more than 10%/yr.   
      
      
      
      
   > For the states -hh specified, renewable percentages for the last 12   
   > months are:  WA 43%, SA 68%, TAS 87% while NT is not reported.   
      
   With the 30 Day metric again, WA is at 47.9% renewables +6.2% batteries,   
   which puts fossil fuels at 46.8%:  majority renewable, as stated.   
      
      
      
   Similarly, SA is 76.5% renewables +2.7% batteries (& 8.6% curtailment)   
   Victoria us 52.2% renewables +1.6% batteries (& 6.4% curtailment)   
   and Tazmania is 91.4% renewables.   
      
      
   > Again, -hh is using 2025 references, yours are a year or two older.   
      
   And on AFRL, "bravely" using a new sockpuppet too.   
      
      
   -hh   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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