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   Retirednoguilt to Mars Sellus   
   Re: OT: BRRRRRRRR!   
   20 Feb 26 09:47:23   
   
   XPost: rec.food.cooking, alt.global-warming, alt.home.repair   
   From: HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com   
      
   On 2/19/2026 4:29 PM, Mars Sellus wrote:   
   > On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 16:00:56 -0500   
   > Ed P  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/19/2026 12:50 PM, Dave Smith wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> I am not disputing that there is something going on or that it may   
   >>> be cause by us. I will just point out there have been a number of   
   >>> ice ages that we know about. The last one ended about 15,000 years   
   >>> ago and the ice cap was just about in my back yard. It has been   
   >>> receding for 15,000 years, most of that time with out the   
   >>> industrialization and the burning of fossil fuels that are being   
   >>> blamed now.   
   >>   
   >> We burn 150 million tons of fossil fuel a day.   
   >   
   > How big is the planet?   
   >   
   >> I would think that   
   >> has some effect.   
   >   
   > It's called "air pollution" - tends to effect cities in basin   
   > topography like Salt Lake o LA.   
   >   
   >> Recently saw a bar chart of the long time warming and a big spike   
   >> started with the industrial revolution.   
   >   
   > Try and look at the big spikes in prior geologic epochs.   
   >   
   > https://co2coalition.org/facts/current-co2-levels-are-near-rec   
   rd-lows-we-are-co2-impoverished/   
   >   
   > https://net-zero.blog/book-blog/carbon-dioxide-and-temperature   
   over-500-million-years   
   >   
   > Roughly 300 million years ago, global temperatures and CO2 concentrations   
   stabilised, at levels not too dissimilar from today, before once again   
   beginning to climb. The next 250 million years experienced a volatile warming   
   trend as currents in the    
   Earth’s liquid mantle broke apart the supercontinent Pangea, drove   
   increasing volcanic activity, and released CO2 and methane into the   
   atmosphere. Through the early temperature increases, up to 90% of all sea   
   creatures and 65% of land creatures were    
   driven to extinction. The dinosaurs emerged as the dominant species on Earth.   
   >   
   > Carbon Dioxide concentrations peaked at over 1,000 ppm around 50   
   > million years ago, with temperatures over 10⁰C warmer than today. The   
   > next 50 million years are characterised by a gradually cooling planet   
   > as volcanic activity slowed. The Antarctic ice sheets formed 30 million   
   > years ago and Greenland glaciation took place 3 million years ago. The   
   > evolution of our early ancestor Homo habilus, “the handy man”, followed   
   > soon after, before Homo erectus, “the upright man”, first appeared   
   > nearly 2 million years before today.   
   >   
   > We have existed as a species less than 3 million years: that’s 0.06% of   
   > the planet’s life, 0.6% of the time of trees, and represents just 2% of   
   > the length of time the dinosaurs roamed the Earth. We have a long way   
   > to go.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > You're another easily gulled simp when it comes to the "climate change"   
   > hobgoblin.   
   >   
   There's a difference between a cooling/warming cycle and the speed at   
   which the climate cycle change takes place.  Yes, it's totally   
   reasonable and probable that there would be a warming cycle at the   
   conclusion of the last ice age.  However, it is the speed at which that   
   cycle is happening and the fact that the rate of increase in speed of   
   change is most unlikely to be due to any factor other than the effect of   
   actions taken and continuing to take place by our species.  The concept   
   of rate of change of acceleration is best described by the mathematics   
   of calculus.   
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