XPost: alt.usage.english, soc.culture.german   
   From: naddy@mips.inka.de   
      
   On 2024-04-07, Antonio Marques  wrote:   
      
   >>>>>> Es ist ein Schutz, wie eine Haut, bei Birken, Linden, Eichen.   
   >>>>>> Doch wenn man was bestimmtes isst, mag man's daran nicht leiden.   
   >>   
   > I didn't know about 'mag...leiden'.   
      
   "Leiden mögen", to use the citation form, is an idiomatic expression.   
   I don't think I actively use it.  But yes, it means "to like".  I   
   think today the same thing is mostly expressed with "leiden können"   
   or simple "mögen".   
      
   It's possible that "mögen" in the sense of 'to like' originated as   
   an ellipsis of "leiden mögen".  "Mögen" and more obviously the 1./3.   
   present singular "mag" is cognate with English "may" and a modal   
   verb.  Modal uses still exist, but the evolution into 'to like' is   
   remarkable.  The past subjunctive "möchte" is in the process of   
   splitting off into a separate verb as evidenced by a spurious   
   infinitive "möchten", which parallels the split of "may"/"might"   
   in English, which are historically present and past of one verb,   
   but increasingly treated as separate verbs.   
      
   (Contrary to English, German modal verbs have non-finite forms.)   
      
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   Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de   
      
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