XPost: rec.puzzles, alt.usage.english   
   From: HenHanna@devnull.tb   
      
   On 5/22/2024 7:01 AM, Ruud Harmsen wrote:   
   > Tue, 21 May 2024 14:10:36 -0700: HenHanna    
   > scribeva:   
   >> in English (phonology), the H, and P,  B sounds are related?   
   >   
   > Please define you specific notion of "related" first, before anyone   
   > could even hope to answer you question sensibly.   
   >   
   >> common phrase  Hanky-Panky contains a H-P contrast   
   >>   
   >>               H-B contrast in  Hobo,   
   >>                  "Hubdub" is a misspelling of "hubbub"  ???   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>            Haberdasher:   a seller of hats and men's clothing.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> _____________________ Well,  H doesn't seem [bilabial] to me   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>     ........  the H, P, and B sounds in English phonology are related!   
   >>   
   >> They are all classified as bilabial consonants, meaning they are   
   >> produced by closing your two lips together. However, they differ in   
   >> their voicing:   
   >>   
   >> P: A voiceless bilabial plosive. When you pronounce "p", you close your   
   >> lips completely and then release the built-up air with a pop. No   
   >> vibration occurs in your vocal cords.   
   >>   
   >> B: A voiced bilabial plosive. Pronouncing "b" is similar to "p" but with   
   >> vibration in your vocal cords along with the lip closure and release.   
   >> This vibration creates a buzzing sound.   
   >>   
   >> H: A voiceless glottal fricative. This might seem like an outlier, but   
   >> hear me out.   
   >>   
   >>                 In English, "h" is often produced by creating a slight   
   >> puff of air by bringing your vocal cords close together, but not   
   >> vibrating them, and opening your lips slightly.   
   >   
      
      
      
    > Please define you specific notion of "related" first, before anyone   
    >            could even hope to answer you question sensibly.   
      
   Yes...  Since some of you are real linguists, i wondered if   
           there's One (catch-all) category that includes   H and P-B sounds   
      
      
            --- like   Glides and Semivowels   
      
      
       >>>  Glides are those sounds that have vowel-like qualities. They   
   combine with vowels and are almost always followed by a vowel. They   
   literally glide into the vowel sound. When working on individual   
   phonemes, we want to try to keep the vowel sound from the end of the   
   sound production.   
                       Our glides are    wh, w, and y.   
      
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