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   Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:   
   > On 2024-05-30 12:03:08 +0000, Antonio Marques said:   
   >   
   >> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:   
   >>> On 2024-05-29 10:59:23 +0000, Ross Clark said:   
   >>>   
   >>>> African-American writer and activist.   
   >>>   
   >>> African American? She was born in the USA of American parents, lived in   
   >>> the USA, worked in the USA, and died in the USA. She was American. She   
   >>> may have had some ancestors from Africa, but that doesn't make her   
   >>> African. I have very recent ancestors from Ireland (including my   
   >>> mother), but I am not Irish.   
   >>   
   >> And here I was, thinking you came from Kernow.   
   >   
   > No. "Cornish" is not a Cornish name: what would be the point of callig   
   > someone Cornish if everyone around is Cornish.   
      
   ? One would think it even less of a point of calling someone Cornish if   
   they were not, well, Cornish in some way.   
      
      
   > The name is much more   
   > common in Devon, just as "Devenish" is more common in Somerset than it   
   > is in Devon.   
   >> Tread carefully, sir.   
   >>   
   >> An unabashedly racist* relative of mine (an older generation, Archie Bunker   
   >> type, still a great guy), whenever he wanted to indicate a black person's   
   >> race respectfully*, said 'who has african blood'.   
   >>   
   >> (*) The subtype who knows a number of blacks, talks about 'them', but also   
   >> enjoys having meals with 'them' and would stand for 'them' where needed. I   
   >> guess the other subtype is worse.   
   >>   
   >> (**) We don't have a word for that in portuguese. While in english 'black'   
   >> is neutral, in portuguese (preto) it can be construed as derogatory. We   
   >> have fiddled with 'negro', sounds too stilted and hence is a problem.   
   >> Incredible as it may seem, I've heard people refer to black people who are   
   >> portuguese and have remote ancestors in eastern Africa as   
   >> 'african-american'...   
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