From: me@yahoo.com
On 2024-06-01 14:40:36 +0000, Aidan Kehoe said:
> Ar an chéad lá de mí Meitheamh, scríobh Athel Cornish-Bowden:
>
> > On 2024-05-31 21:06:53 +0000, Aidan Kehoe said:
> >
> > > Ar an t-aonú lá is triochad de mí Bealtaine, scríobh Athel
> Cornish-Bowden:
> > >
> > > > On 2024-05-31 07:50:03 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2024-05-30 18:47:03 +0000, Christian Weisgerber said:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On 2024-05-30, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> No. "Cornish" is not a Cornish name: what would be the
> point of callig
> > > > >>>> someone Cornish if everyone around is Cornish. The name is
> much more
> > > > >>>> common in Devon, just as "Devenish" is more common in
> Somerset than it
> > > > >>>> is in Devon.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I used to know María Teresa Miras Portugal (until she
> died): she was
> > > > >>> Spanish, not Portuguese.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Actress Cécile de France is Belgian.
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed. I didn't think of her, but I knew she was Belgian.
> > > >
> > > > An even more prominent example is François Hollande: he is not
> Dutch, but is
> > > > French.
> > >
> > > Ian Fleming was also British, not from Flanders.
> > >
> > > Ian Paisley was (and Ian Óg Paisley is) not from Paisley.
> > >
> > > George C. Scott was from West Virginia, not Scotland.
> > >
> > > Neither the actor James Franco nor the deceased caudillo of Spain have
any
> > > immediate family background in Franconia, nor even France.
> > >
> > > Percy French, Irish songwriter, was not French by nationality.
> > >
> > > Counterexample; Charles de Gaulle was French, but his name was Dutch.
> > >
> > > Complication; Chester Nimitz was of recent German descent, but had US
> > > nationality; his family name is of Slavic origin but designates a
German.
> > >
> > > I’m sure I could (and we could) keep going with these!
> >
> > As a possible counterexample, what about Deutsch and Deutscher,
> which seem to
> > be reasonably common surnames in Germany?
>
> https://wiki.genealogy.net/Deutsch_(Familienname) comments:
>
> »Der Name wurde vor allem in Grenzgebieten mit gemischter Bevölkerung
> gegeben,
> später auch jüdischer Name«
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks. As most of the people called Deutsch
that I've come across were/are Jewish I did wonder if it was a Jewish
name.
>
> I learned for the first time today of Alfred Deutsch-German, an Austrian Jew
> who was killed in the Holocaust.
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.
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