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|    Margaret Drabble born (5-6-1939)    |
|    07 Jun 24 21:50:48    |
      From: benlizro@ihug.co.nz              English biographer, novelist, and short story writer.       I don't believe I've ever read a word she wrote, but her name is familiar.       Crystal's quote from her, about "turning landscape into art", leads to a       comment on the words "landscape" and "scenery", neither of which is       particularly old.              landscape "A picture representing natural inland scenery..."        (from about 1600, from Dutch)        "A view or prospect of natural inland scenery..."        (from early 1700s)       Both definitions include the word "scenery" -- first its a picture of       the scenery, then the scenery itself _as seen_ from a certain point.       So what is "scenery"              scenery "The items used on a theatre stage to represent the location or       setting in which the action of a play or other dramatic production takes       place, such as painted scenes, backcloths, built set, stage furniture,       etc. (from about 1700)               "The features of a place, landscape, or view considered in terms of       their appearance or attractiveness..." (from about the same time)              !! In both cases the earliest meaning is some kind of artifice (a       painting, stage set) which is then extended to the real (place?), _as       seen_, or _as it looks_. Yet the actual (fields, trees, mountains, etc.)       seems more basic. Was there no word for it before these ones came along?              Just "land", maybe?              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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