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|    Peter Moylan to HenHanna    |
|    =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_French_proverb_:_=e2=80=9c    |
|    09 Jun 24 00:35:45    |
      XPost: rec.puzzles, alt.usage.english, alt.proverbs       From: peter@pmoylan.org              On 04/06/24 09:01, HenHanna wrote:              > If you talk to a man in a language he understands, that goes to his       > head. If you talk to him in his own language, that goes to his       > heart.              At various times I have been in places where my command of the local       language was somewhere between zero and negligible. That must happen to       anyone who has done a bit of travelling. How does one deal with this?              One approach is that of the obnoxious tourist who speaks in English very       loudly. (Only English speakers do this, for some reason.) The       assumption, I presume, is that anyone who can't understand him must be deaf.              My own approach is meek. I avoid saying anything at all. Where that is       not possible, I'll at least make sure to work out how to say "Do you       speak English or French?" in the local language, those being the two       languages where I can get by. (Special case: I have worked out how to       say "I don't speak X" for a number of different values of X.) If you       can't speak a language, most people appreciate that you've at least made       an effort.              (Exception: if you say that to a Dutch speaker, you get one of two       responses, in my experience. The first is "Maar U spreekt Nederlands,       meneer". (If you can say that much with a good Dutch accent, you must be       fully fluent in Dutch.) The other is a very offended "Of course I speak       English". How dare you suggest that I'm so uneducated that I can't speak       your language?)              One place where I felt completely lost was in Seoul. I knew no Korean,       and nobody there spoke English. (This has since changed, I gather.) I       couldn't even guess what the street signs said, although I did get as       far as figuring out that the writing was a phonetic syllabary. On       initial arrival, I had a card with name of my hotel written in Korean,       and I compared that with the sign on the front of each arriving bus.        From that experience, I have a lot of sympathy for people who are in a       country whose language is totally foreign to them. At least I can read       the street names anywhere in western Europe.              (Exception: the Irish don't believe in giving names to roads, so there       aren't any street signs.)              --       Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org       Newcastle, NSW              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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