From: benlizro@ihug.co.nz   
      
   On 14/06/2024 11:00 a.m., HenHanna wrote:   
   >   
   >          “Quum diues quidam filium adolescentulum ad Socratem   
   misisset,   
   > ut indolem illius inspiceret, ac pædagogus diceret, Pater ad te ô   
   > Socrates, misit filium, ut eum videres:   
   >   
   >          tum Socrates ad puerum,   
   >                 Loquere igitur, inquit, adolescens, ut te   
   uideam:   
   >   
   > significans, ingenium hominis non tam in uultu relucere,   
   > quam in oratione, quòd hoc sit certissimum minimeq- ; mendax animi   
   > speculumâ€�   
   >   
   > ________________________   
   >   
   >          “When a rich man sent his youthful son to Socrates so that   
   he   
   > could see the promise of his son, the slave who brought him said,   
   >   
   > ‘Socrates, the father sends his son so you can see him.’   
   >   
   > Socrates replied to the boy, ‘Speak so that I may see you.’   
   >   
   >        Meaning: the character of a man shines less in his face than in   
   > his speech because speech is the most reliable and least deceitful   
   > mirror of the soul.â€�   
   >   
   >   
   >                   -------  where's  [slave]  in the Latin   
   text?   
   >                              i see... it's not   
   there at all.   
   >   
   >   
   > Was this when  Socrates was  imprisoned?   
      
   paedagÅ   
   gus  'a slave who accompanied children to and from school, and   
   had charge of them at home' (Cassell's Latin Dictionary, 202nd thousand)   
      
   Ï€Î±Î¹Î´Î±Î³Ï‰Î³ÏŒÏ‚ 'the slave who went with a boy from home to school and   
   back   
   again, hence generally a tutor, teacher, instructor' (Liddell & Scott's   
   Greek-English Lexicon (abridged), twenty-sixth edition)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)