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   Message 295,821 of 297,462   
   HenHanna to Ross Clark   
   Re: Magna Carta sealed (15-6-1215)   
   16 Jun 24 03:23:17   
   
   XPost: alt.usage.english   
   From: HenHanna@devnull.tb   
      
   On 6/15/2024 4:22 PM, Ross Clark wrote:   
   > And the linguistic angle is...   
   > "The original is written in medieval Latin, as was normal for official   
   > documents at the time..."   
   > And this goes on to scribal abbreviations, which were also normal at the   
   > time:   
   >   
   > "...in Magna Carta _and_* was written as a dash with a small tail, _per_   
   > ('of') could appear as a letter 

with a crossbar on the descender,       > and _nostra_ ('our') was written with a horizontal line above."       >       > *He should really have written: _et_ ('and').       >       > (Something that came up quite recently in the excerpt from the Chronicle       > about the Danes sacking Lindisfarne):       >       > "A symbol that looked like the numeral 7 was very frequent in       > Anglo-Saxon texts as a replacement for _and_: it derives from the symbol       > used in classical Latin for _et_ ('and') by Cicero's scribe, Marcus       > Tullius Tiro (and thus often called the 'Tironian _et_')."       > As Aidan knew.                                   Old Irish              Etymology= Abbreviation of Latin et reliqua (“and the rest”), with et       being contracted via the Tironian note ⁊.                     Phrase              ⁊rl.                     ocus --> agus              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   


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