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   HenHanna to J. J. Lodder   
   Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japane   
   30 Jun 24 13:33:21   
   
   XPost: alt.usage.english   
   From: HenHanna@devnull.tb   
      
   On 6/30/2024 2:18 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   > Tilde  wrote:   
   >   
   >> HenHanna wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> Does anyone (with knowledge of phonetics, phonology)   
   >>>       care to comment on how the Anglo-American views about   
   >>>   
   >>>             Japs can't pronounce L's   (the Japanese convert L's into R's)   
   >>   
   >> "japs" ????? really?   
   >   
   > It seems so. It may be a clue to the Hen being Dutch.   
   >   
   > In circles of descendants of the white Dutch from Indonesia   
   > 'Jap' is routinely used as a denigrating and racist term.   
   > The Japanese consider the use of 'Jap' for them as insulting,   
   > but those people either don't want to know that, or do it deliberately.   
   >   
   > The fact that their kind of white suprematist [1]   
   > was deeply humiliated by the Japanese during WWIIy rankled,   
   > and some of them never got over it.   
   > Some of their children and grandchildren have inherited the outlook.   
   >   
   > Also in the use of 'Jappenkamp',   
   > for the internment camps for women and children in Indonesia.   
   >   
   > All this has been a cause of controversy:   
   > some less narrowminded authors with colonial roots   
   > have protested vehemently against this narrow-minded outlook.   
   >   
   > All just a possibility of course.   
   > So directly for the Hen: are you Dutch?   
   >   
   > Jan   
   >   
   >   
   > [1] For comparison: The Dutch in Indonesia were in general more racist   
   > and exclusive that the British in their India,   
   > and in consequence made a far greater mess of it after WWII.   
   >   
      
      
                Jul 21, 2004 — BEAUMONT, Texas (Reuters) - A decade-long   
   fight over a quiet country lane called "Jap Road" ended on Monday when   
   local officials voted to change ...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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