XPost: alt.usage.english   
   From: HenHanna@devnull.tb   
      
   On 7/7/2024 9:55 AM, Aidan Kehoe wrote:   
   >   
   >   Ar an seachtú lá de mí Iúil, scríobh Athel Cornish-Bowden:   
   >   
   >   > [...] In the case of Hebrew I was inclined to believe [PTD]. Possibly   
   >   > unwise, as our world expert on writing had apparently forgotten that   
   >   > Armenian doesn't use the Roman alphabet. He attacked me once for writing   
   a   
   >   > name with -ian at the end, whereas he wanted -yan (or vice versa, I don't   
   >   > remember), apparently unaware that -ian and -yan are written in exactly   
   the   
   >   > same way in Armenian. Consider Միկոյան (Mikoyan) and   
   Խաչատրյան   
   >   > (Khatchaturian).   
      
      
   PTD knew close to nothing about (spoken or written) Chinese, and   
   yet.........   
      
                       He did know a few esoteric factoids.   
                              (e.g.,  about the 2 chars for Butterfly)   
      
      
   >   
   > Slightly relatedly, the Iranian president-president-elect Pezeshkian,   
   پزشکیان،   
   > has a transparently Armenian surname, with “pezeshk” the native Persian   
   word   
   > for physician. Wikipedia reports he is Azeri and I imagine he is Shia, my   
   > working guess is that one of his ancestors converted to Islam after the point   
   > that surnames became obligatory.   
   >   
   > The Persian Wikipedia article lists him as a heart surgeon first, lots of   
   > respect for physicians in that country.   
   >   
      
      
      
   sometimes i have this movie mixed up with another one   
                                         in whch a big German guy appears.   
      
      
      
   The movie "Elevator to the Gallows" (French: Ascenseur pour l'échafaud)   
      
   Julien Tavernier (Maurice Ronet)   
      
               Tavernier is a French occupational surname meaning innkeeper.   
      
      
     i had ths surname mixed up with another one that   
                               sounds  Persian or Iranian   
      
      
      
   Where does the name Travaglini come from?   
      
   Italian:         patronymic or plural form of a nickname from a   
   diminutive of travaglio 'anguish, worry, distress' applied for a   
   distressed person or from travagliare 'to work' applied for a hard   
   worker or fatigued person.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)