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   From: HenHanna@devnull.tb   
      
   On 5/13/2024 2:45 AM, HenHanna wrote:   
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   >> On 5/12/2024 6:53 PM, Ross Clark wrote:   
   >>> Birthday of Edward Lear (1812-1888).   
   >>> A Book of Nonsense (1846) has 112 of them.   
   >>> But he didn't invent it, says Crystal, and cites:   
   >>>   
   >>> And let me the canakin clink, clink;   
   >>> And let me the canakin clink;   
   >>>    A soldier's a man   
   >>>    O, man's life's but a span;   
   >>> Why, then, let a soldier drink.                  
    Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  --   
   >>>                                (Shakespeare, Othello)   
   >>>   
   >>> Yah, OK, he didn't invent the metrical pattern or the rhyme scheme.   
   >>> But still -- The Limerick As We Know It?   
   >>>   
   >>> He also didn't name it. Name first attested 1896, several years after   
   >>> Lear's death.   
   >>> Origin of name -- Crystal has a story, can't be arsed repeating it.   
   >>> May check with OED.   
   >>>   
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   >    what's the story?   
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   >                        i don't know that expression. ...   
   >                      [can't be arsed repeating it] -- is   
   that NZ English?   
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   > Yes, "can't be arsed repeating it" is a common expression in New Zealand   
   > English. It's a vulgar slang way of saying "I can't be bothered   
   > repeating it" or "I'm too lazy to repeat it."   
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   > Here's a breakdown:   
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   > "Can't be arsed": This is a vulgar slang way of saying "can't be   
   > bothered." "Arsed" is a vulgar term for "having to do with the buttocks."   
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   > Context: This expression is used informally among friends or   
   > acquaintances. It wouldn't be appropriate in formal settings.   
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   > Here are some ニュージーランド英語 (New Zealand English)   
   alternatives   
   > with a similar meaning, but less vulgar:   
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   >            -- "Can't be bothered repeating it"   
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   >            -- "I already said that"   
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   >            -- "Look it up yourself" (informal)   
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   > While "can't be arsed" is understood in New Zealand, it's important to   
   > be aware of the informal and potentially offensive nature of the term.   
      
      
      
      
   No, William Shakespeare did not invent the limerick.  The exact origin   
   of the limerick is a bit hazy, but here's what we know:   
      
   Limerick Timeline:          The limerick form likely emerged in the 18th   
   or early 19th century. Shakespeare lived from 1564 to 1616, making him   
   much too early for the limerick's invention.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)