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   From: vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid   
      
   Le 29/07/2024 à 22:24, Rich Ulrich a écrit :   
   > Hibou wrote:   
   >>   
   >> I've been called stupid countless times, especially in Usenet fora, and   
   >> met many who have clung to demonstrably false beliefs (dear old   
   >> fr.soc.religion in its heyday!) - too many, I think, to infer that they   
   >> were all suffering from some syndrome or other. It's just human nature,   
   >> innit?   
   >   
   > I will repeat, neurotypicals (NTs) and Aspies overlap a lot. But when   
   > a person shows a bunch of separate, rare traits ...   
      
   I don't think clinging to debating positions is rare, and dismissing   
   critics as stupid or liars is one way of doing so. (It reminds me of   
   dictatorships.)   
      
   > that is what   
   > adds up to a diagnosis. And, How often does a behavior show up?   
   >   
   > I counted at one time -- in a month, Bob called 11 different people   
   > Stupid or Liar.  Or it might have been about that many for each   
   > word (it's been a long time). Do you excuse that as 'human nature'?   
      
   I don't excuse it at all.   
      
   > I found myself interacting with him a lot because I had sort of taken   
   > on the task of a monitor in the stats groups,   
      
   A self-appointed moderator?   
      
   > and he was prone to   
   > (even) start out, like, "You must be stupid to ask THAT."  This was   
   > from a guy who spent his working life as a college professor who   
   > was not well liked by his students (and there is another story,   
   > there).   
      
   He appears to have been a big influence in your life.   
      
   >>> I don't know how much of their problem is created or influenced   
   >>> by the aftermath of their own social ineptness -- a feature   
   >>> have not been discussing. The Usenet autism group once posted   
   >>> a note by a woman who said that her child's kindergarten teacher   
   >>> praised the daughter for her 'maturity' since she never joined in   
   >>> when kids were bullying or hassling. The teacher did not   
   >>> recognize that the daughter was not mature, she simply did not   
   >>> UNDERSTAND why the  bullying was taking place; she did not   
   >>> join in automatically, because she did not fit in.   
   >>>   
   >>> Aspies are not insulted by the same things neurotypicals   
   >>> consider insulting, so they make social mistakes. They get called   
   >>> Stupid or Liar when they claim they did not UNDERSTAND that   
   >>> someone would (or would not) be offended by something.   
   >>> " - Okay, you insulted my shirt.  My mama picked it out, not me.   
   >>> Why should I be offended?"  Or the Aspie might insult a shirt,   
   >>> while imagining they were offering a trivial observation. [...]   
   >>   
   >> Goodness me! I am learning a lot. (I have Asperger's myself.)   
   >   
   > You're welcome?   
      
   Do please continue. I'm eager to learn more.   
      
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