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   Ross Clark to HenHanna   
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   13 Sep 24 23:10:38   
   
   From: benlizro@ihug.co.nz   
      
   On 13/09/2024 3:01 p.m., HenHanna wrote:   
   > On 9/12/2024 11:12 AM, mwgamera wrote:   
   >> On 2024-09-12, HenHanna wrote:   
   >>>       Does 野分 in Chinese mean  颱風 (台風, Typhoon) ?   
   >>>   
   >>> in Japanese,   野分   
   , 野分, のわ   
     (or Nowake)  means that.   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >> I suspect the context is the title of one of the parts of Genji   
   >> Monogatari   
   >> where it was translated as ‘the typhoon’ into English.   
   >>   
   >> On the surface the word looks like a Japanese coining; like a literal   
   >> ‘field-splitting [wind]’. And the etymology given by Digital Daijisen   
   is:   
   >>> 《野の   
   を風が強く吹   
   分ける意》   
   >>   
   >> Why should it mean anything in Chinese?   Perhaps it might appear for   
   >> the same   
   >> reason Google Translate went with “nowaki” in English, ie. as an   
   >> untranslated   
   >> foreign term.   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > 野分 · late autumn (fall) windstorm in the countryside;  typhoon, esp.   
   > one that blows from the 210th to the 220th day of the year   
   >   
      
   And where did that come from?   
      
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