XPost: alt.usage.english   
   From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl   
      
   Kerr-Mudd, John  wrote:   
      
   > On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 21:49:11 +0200   
   > nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:   
   >   
   > > occam  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > On 19/09/2024 06:59, Aidan Kehoe wrote:   
   > > > > Another one that stuck for me was "metic", "resident foreigner in a   
   > > > > Greek city state," apparently not related to meticulous.   
   > > >   
   > > > Try 'hermetic' as a related concept. A 'foreigner' in ancient Greek was   
   > > > someone from another city state, even if that was a city in Greece.   
   > > > 'Greece' did not become an entity until much later.   
   > >   
   > > Depends on what you want 'entity' to mean.   
   > > Those ancient Greeks certainly saw themselves as a cultural entity,   
   > > with a shared language and culture. This extended to 'Greater Greece'.   
   > > It was only the narrow sense of a political entity that was   
   > > inconceivable to them,   
   >   
   >   
   > In his travels (read killing spree) Alexander encountered some lost Greek   
   > settlement; unfortunately for them they hadn't kept up *all* the right   
   > procedures to appease the gods, so he had to slaughter them as well.   
      
   Only the men, I guess. There are still tribes in Afghanistan   
   that claim descent from Alexander's soldiers,   
      
   Jan   
      
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