XPost: alt.usage.english, iu.misc   
   From: tonycooper214@gmail.com   
      
   On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:55:37 +0000, HenHanna    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 14:19:16 +0000, Tony Cooper wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 02:16:13 -0400, Rich Ulrich   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 05:11:51 +0000, HenHanna    
   >>>wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>Why are some uni's        The University of xxxxxxxx   
   >>>>        and others        xxxxxx  University ?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>It seems pretty natural to me to say University of xxxx when   
   >>>xxxx is a place. It does not work well for a person's name   
   >>>   
   >>>Similarly xxxx University is natural when the xxxx is a person's   
   >>>name, though I feel only a little strain to this ordering for a place.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> My alma mater is now "Indiana University".  It was founded as "State   
   >> Seminary" in 1820, became "Indiana College" in 1828, and "Indiana   
   >> University" in 1838.   
   >>   
   >> While a late-comer compared to Harvard, Indiana only became a state in   
   >> 1816.   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   >      (the) University of Indiana    is the same as Indiana University.   
      
   To whom?  Not to anyone who goes to I.U., went to I.U., or knows   
   anything about I.U..   
      
   It's true that (the) "University of Indiana" exists, but the full name   
   is (the) University of Indiana of Pennsylvania.  It's a small   
   university (under 10,000 undergraduates) in Indiana, Pennsylvania.   
   >   
   >   
   >      Indiana State University (ISU) is a separate, independent   
   >university located in Terre Haute, Indiana. ---   While it's often   
   >mentioned alongside IU due to their proximity and similar names,   
      
   By whom?  It's mentioned by some, but only as one of the many colleges   
   and universities in the state, and being in the same state as I.U..   
   That  is the only connection.    It's probably mentioned most as the   
   alma mater of Larry Bird and John Wooden, because they are two famous   
   names in basketball and Indiana is known as a basketball state.   
      
   Larry Bird, btw, grew up in French Lick, Indiana; a city known to be   
   less interesting than its name.   
   >   
   There is also a University of Southern Indiana in Evansville that was   
   formerly the Indiana State University-Evansville, but became an   
   independent entity in 1985.   
   >   
      
   More than one school in a state with a similar name is hardly   
   remarkable.  Think Iowa State and University of Iowa,  Oklahoma State   
   University and University of Oklahoma, University of California and   
   California State University and others.   
      
   You might also note there's a Indiana University of Pennsylvania and a   
   California University of Pennsylvania (aka PennWest California) in   
   California, Pennsylvania.   
      
      
   >to add to the confusion,   
   >   
   >       Purdue University is not part of Indiana University (IU).   
   >   
   >       IUPUI stands for Indiana University Purdue University   
   >Indianapolis. It's a joint campus formed by Indiana University and   
   >Purdue University, located in Indianapolis.   
      
   I don't know who is confused other than you.  I.U. and Purdue share a   
   campus in Indianapolis.  It's an expansion of what was just the   
   location of the I.U. Medical School.   
      
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