XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.language.latin   
   From: naddy@mips.inka.de   
      
   On 2024-10-06, guido wugi  wrote:   
      
   > And across languages, ex.:   
   >   
   > E NL D   
   > weird worden werden   
      
   That is misleading.  Already in Proto-Germanic the noun from which   
   "weird" derives was distinct from the verb that is the source of   
   the Dutch/German verb and OE "weorþan".   
      
   > ask eisen heischen   
      
   The German verb picked up the h- by contamination from another verb,   
   "heißen" (cf. OE "hātan").   
      
   > leap lopen laufen   
   > spring springen springen   
      
   Those German verbs already vary in meaning across German dialects.   
   E.g., you may have heard of Amish (Pennsylvania Dutch) "rumspringe",   
   which literally means "running around", because in Palatinate dialect   
   "springe" (springen) means 'run' and "laafe" (laufen) means 'walk'.   
      
   > die doden töten   
      
   No, the English verb, likely from Old Norse, is different from the   
   German/Dutch one.  The German cognate for "die" is OHG touwen, which   
   didn't survive into Modern German.  Conversely, Old English "dȳdan"   
   is cognate with "töten".  Modern English "deaden" is likely a new   
   formation from the adjective "dead" + "-en".   
      
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