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   OED Historical Thesaurus published (22/1   
   22 Oct 24 23:08:40   
   
   From: benlizro@ihug.co.nz   
      
   Roget gives us the present day English vocabulary arranged by semantic   
   fields. You start with a word, look up its semantic category (a nested   
   hierarchy with labels like "1.2.23.14"), look that up and you will find   
   your word together with all its near-synonyms or closely related (by   
   meaning) words. The classic task for Roget is "I want a word that means   
   something like 'insist', but a little different..." or "I don't want to   
   keep on using 'insist' -- how about a word that means roughly the same,   
   for variety?"   
      
   The OED Historical Thesaurus adds a historical dimension to this.   
   Starting in the same way, you find a semantic point or field you're   
   interested in, and it gives you all the words that have been used there,   
   right back to Old English. You can see how the vocabulary for that   
   particular area has changed over the centuries.   
      
   I have to admit: I bought myself a copy of OEDHT a couple of years ago,   
   on impulse, for probably more money than was wise. It's two great hefty   
   volumes, and it's on my bookshelf now, but I have used it very little.   
   I'm not at home with the semantic categories, and the historical   
   information is extremely compressed, in small print with numerous   
   abbreviations. Maybe I just need an online tutorial in how to use it.   
   Actually the whole thing is available online, alongside OED Online,   
   which I use all the time; but if I learned to use the online thesaurus,   
   I would realize I had wasted my money on the hard copy....   
      
   The sort of question which I have occasionally thought OEDHT might be   
   able to answer is: I'm thinking about a modern English word which seems   
   pretty basic, but I know it only goes back to the 17th century, or to   
   Middle English. The concept is not new, so what words did they have for   
   it before the one we know today?   
      
   Crystal says it's the first historical thesaurus for any language. The   
   idea was suggested to the Philological Society by Michael Samuels in   
   1965, and 44 years later, there it was.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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