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   Stefan Ram to Ross Clark   
   Re: OED Historical Thesaurus published (   
   22 Oct 24 15:34:32   
   
   From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de   
      
   Ross Clark  wrote or quoted:   
   >Roget gives us the present day English vocabulary arranged by semantic   
   >fields. You start with a word, look up its semantic category (a nested   
   >hierarchy with labels like "1.2.23.14"), look that up and you will find   
   >your word together with all its near-synonyms or closely related (by   
   >meaning) words. The classic task for Roget is "I want a word that means   
   >something like 'insist', but a little different..." or "I don't want to   
   >keep on using 'insist' -- how about a word that means roughly the same,   
   >for variety?"   
      
     Here in Berlin, we call those kinds of dictionaries for   
     German "dictionary of synonyms" when they list words along   
     with their synonyms.   
      
     In California, from what I can tell, folks usually call this   
     kind of thing a "thesaurus." The word exists in German too,   
     but it's not used as often in this context.   
      
     On top of that, we've got dictionaries that organize the German   
     vocabulary by "by meaning groups", basically grouping words by   
     how closely related their meanings are. (That kind of thing would   
     probably be called a "thesaurus" in the Golden State too.)   
      
     I'm not hip to anything like that specifically for older forms   
     of German, but you might be able to get somewhere by doing   
     a full-text search in dictionaries from those earlier periods   
     as a workaround. Or you could always pick the brain of a chatbot!   
      
   User:   
   |I don't want to keep on using "insist" – how about a word   
   |that means roughly the same, for variety?   
      
   Chatbot:   
   |Here are some synonyms for "insist" that you can use for   
   |variety:   
   . . .   
      
   User:   
   |What did people use in older states of the English language   
   |to say "insist"?   
      
   Chatbot:   
   . . .   
   |Astandan - to stand firm, persist   
   |Geornlice biddan - to earnestly request or demand   
   . . .   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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