XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.language.latin   
   From: wugi@brol.invalid   
      
   Op 10/11/2024 om 8:29 schreef Hibou:   
   > Le 10/11/2024 à 11:01, Peter Moylan a écrit :   
   >> On 10/11/24 20:12, Hibou wrote:   
   >>> Le 10/11/2024 à 08:42, HenHanna a écrit :   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Si tu continues à manger autant de bonbons, tu vas aller et   
   >>>> tomber malade !" [...]   
   >>>   
   >>> Is that a machine translation? C'en a l'air.   
   >>   
   >> "Go and do X" is a distinctively English construct. For the moment I   
   >> can't think of another language that does that [1]. French has "aller   
   >> tomber", but not "aller et tomber". (And putting it after "tu vas"   
   >> aggravates the crime.)   
   >   
   > It would be even worse in the plural: vous allez aller et tomber   
   > malade(s). (Mind you, the French do say « Allez, va ! » - a different   
   > idea, of course, but I still marvel at it.)   
   >   
   >> [1] A dangerous assertion to make in AUE, of course. It will probably   
   >> elicit many examples.   
   >   
   > I wonder if there's a distinction between a prediction, as above, and an   
   > imperative. "Go and do X!" would seem to be a universally valid   
   > instruction, which should be expressible in all languages.   
   >   
   > « Et Jésus lui dit: Va, et toi, fais de même » - Luc 10.37 (Louis   
   Segond).   
      
   Also biblical:   
   Go and fornic, er, multipl, eh, I don't know the English version.   
   Gaat en vermenigvuldigt u: go and multiply yourselves.   
   A disastrous assignment in these times of overpopulation.   
      
   --   
   guido wugi   
   cells and math: they multiply by division   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)