From: wugi@brol.invalid   
      
   Op 24/11/2024 om 20:50 schreef Ross Clark:   
   > On 25/11/2024 10:18 a.m., HenHanna wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 20:03:53 +0000, Ross Clark wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 25/11/2024 6:32 a.m., HenHanna wrote:   
   >>>> Etymology   
   >>>>            From French cascade, from Italian cascata, from   
   cascare (“to   
   >>>> fall”), from Vulgar Latin *cāsicāre, derived from Latin cadere,   
   >>>> ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *ḱh₂d-.   
      
   A reduplication *cadcadere > *cascadere > *cascare   
   seems highly possible to me.   
   French cascader (< cascade < cascata) is like coming back to the original.   
      
   (...)   
   >>>> i guess  MainTain  is sort of like that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>   from Latin manū (“with/in/by the hand”, ablative of manus) +   
   >>>>>>> tenēre   
   >>>>>>> (“to hold”).   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Manipulate,  "manoeuvre" (or "maneuver" in American English)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Others?   (Same Root  twice) ???   
      
   Not the same root (as Ross told you), but the same semantic meaning.   
      
   >>> I can't think of another European example. (...)   
      
   (...)   
      
   >>     Reduplicate  arguably   contains the same Root twice.   
   >   
   > Not if you understand what "root" means.   
      
   As a "same meaning reduplication" word, I think of Dutch *diefstal*,   
   taken ("stolen";) from German, obviously with double kleptic meaning   
   (thief, stealing). Older Dutch was *diefte* ~ E. theft.   
      
   An apparently "internal contradiction" word is *volledig*, complete,   
   which seemingly contains *vol*, full, and *ledig ~ leeg*, empty. Only   
   that here the ledig part stems from *het lid, de leden*, member(s).   
   Full-membered.   
      
   A word apparently meaning the same as its opposite is *guur/onguur*. But   
   the shorter form stems from its negative, in different registers:   
   Guur weer. Een onguur type. Bleak weather. A sinister bloke.   
   Same in German, it would seem: geheuer, ungeheuer.   
      
   --   
   guido wugi   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)